Way tubes vs Bench tubes
Moderator: admin
Way tubes vs Bench tubes
I don't have a micrometer, and my vernier measurements are inconclusive so I'll have to ask the boffins.
Is there a size difference between Way & Bench tubes?
The reason for asking, is that my bench tubes were painted some time in their history and have rusted a lot less than my Way tubes. My first bench tube cleanup seems to be yielding good results, and I fear that the Way tubes will be likely be too pitted for decent sliding use.
I don't want to spend too much time buffing & polishing any tube if I'm just going to paint it again.
Thanks all.
Is there a size difference between Way & Bench tubes?
The reason for asking, is that my bench tubes were painted some time in their history and have rusted a lot less than my Way tubes. My first bench tube cleanup seems to be yielding good results, and I fear that the Way tubes will be likely be too pitted for decent sliding use.
I don't want to spend too much time buffing & polishing any tube if I'm just going to paint it again.
Thanks all.
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35600
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
PG-Zac wrote:I don't have a micrometer, and my vernier measurements are inconclusive so I'll have to ask the boffins.
Is there a size difference between Way & Bench tubes?
The reason for asking, is that my bench tubes were painted some time in their history and have rusted a lot less than my Way tubes. My first bench tube cleanup seems to be yielding good results, and I fear that the Way tubes will be likely be too pitted for decent sliding use.
I don't want to spend too much time buffing & polishing any tube if I'm just going to paint it again.
Thanks all.
The 'concise' answer is 'maybe'! I am not recalling what you are working on, but if it is an earlier Greenie than the tube diameters are different. The early Greenies bench tubes were 1 7/8" od. ALL others are 1 3/4" od.
ALL way tubes are 52" long(including the 10E/R) and ALL bench tubes are 3/4" longer. The 10E/R tubes are twice as thick as the Mark 5/v tubes.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- mickyd
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 2999
- Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:18 pm
- Location: San Diego, CA
- Contact:
I would't be concerned that the tubes are too pitted. After electrolysis rust removal and prior to sanding, these tubes worked fine yet you can see how pitted they were.PG-Zac wrote:I don't have a micrometer, ........
.........and I fear that the Way tubes will be likely be too pitted for decent sliding use.
Mike
Sunny San Diego
Sunny San Diego
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35600
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
A word of caution! Do not assume anything relative to what/how old/model you are dealing with. It can be a mix from different units.PG-Zac wrote:Thanks Red,
I am restoring a Goldie from '62 or '63 (no serial #)
Thanks for pointing out the length difference - I didn't even think to check that.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35600
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
OK! Clone parts also!:eek:PG-Zac wrote:That's for sure. I have already found that this Goldie is made of not all original parts. For example, the extension table is cast iron.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- robinson46176
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 4182
- Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:00 pm
- Location: Central Indiana (Shelbyville)
JPG40504 wrote:A word of caution! Do not assume anything relative to what/how old/model you are dealing with. It can be a mix from different units.
Do you mean like from my parts stash? ]8344[/ATTACH]
- Attachments
-
- SS stash2.JPG (88.25 KiB) Viewed 6842 times
--
farmer
Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
farmer
Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35600
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
And that does not include the stable of operating ones!:DPG-Zac wrote:WOAH Francis !!!![]()
![]()
That is quite a stash - you certainly have one or two spares.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange