So maybe that's why there are no details?

mgdesigns · Post by **mgdesigns** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:30 pm

So maybe that's why there are no details? - Curious?

I was, so I removed the retaining ring from the back side of the driven gear on the top shaft. BOING -

that holds the retainer that the big compression spring pushes against.

So, I disassembled the the whole assemble, which I guessed was a torque limiting clutch for the Gilson Drive Gear. Wow, I cleaned it all up being careful not to break any of the fiber board gears, or damaging with solvents. I got it all back together, but spent 2.5 hours trying to figure out how to compress the spring and get the retaining ring to snap back into the groove. I had just about given up, after using a neighbor's drill press, and a long impact socket as a ram.

Then I tried to use c-clamps - no good.
Then my engraver's vise - no good - too long of a spread.
Then it dawned on me.

I had just received the 1950's Magna Jointer and support tubes - VOILA!
I used one of the tubes as a ram, and the quill on the SS to press the whole mess back together. After a couple of tries and finally got the snap ring into the groove. I hope it stays. I might go by TSC (Tractor Supply Co.) and see if they have a new one - now that I have the technique to press it together figured out.

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mgdesigns · Post by **mgdesigns** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:36 pm

What size retaining clip is the one I've been trying to get to stay in the groove?

mgdesigns · Post by **mgdesigns** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:22 pm

Key for keyway in Control Pulley?

OK - I am re-assembling the Headstock assembly - I have everything prepped and I noticed there's a keyway in the Control Pulley, but on the Exploded parts drawing there is no key designation. I believe you'd have to have a key to alignment between the the 2 halves of the pulley assembly, and I have key stock material enough to make it but don't know exactly how long to cut it. HELP, Please. Thank you.

Here's the exploded view:
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/part ... xpview.htm

Ron309753 · Post by **Ron309753** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:33 pm

The key is part #108 in the diagram. It should have been on the idler shaft when you disassembed it. The key not only aligns the idler sheave and control sheave, but without the key the sheaves would just spin on the shaft. The key should run the length of the keyway from the retaining ring to the end of the idler shaft.

There should also have been an idler sheave clip (part #107). It is a u shaped piece of wire with squared corners. It, along with the retaining ring, keeps the idler sheave from moving back and forth on the idler shaft.

First slide the idler sheave onto the shaft and over the key until it rests against the retaining ring. Then slide the clip onto the shaft until it engages the groove in the shaft. Then just slide on the control sheave.

Hope this helps!

Sincerely,

Ron309753

mgdesigns · Post by **mgdesigns** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:08 pm

I got too anxious, because I need to get this Shopsmith working by tomorrow, so I called Shopsmith Customer service. I spoke to Linda (very knowledgeable and very helpful), and she explained how to disassemble the whole shaft. I did it (except I left the bearing on -it spins fine) and I made a hooked ended key the length of the shaft. I broke a $30 pair of jeweler's ring bender pliers trying to get the hook on the end (oh well) - I can probably use a friend's laser welder to fix those.

I got the new key the keyway and the pulley slid right on. I finished the whole assembly of the headstock and removed all of the white lithium grease I had placed on the normal oiled points, and I oiled. I set it to slowest speed, and the v-pulley looks very slack, so I'll wait until later to fire it up. The pulley is a genuine Shopsmith-Pirelli, and looks OK but should probably be replaced.

Now all that's left to do is plug it into power. I'll wait until tomorrow to do that. Got a wood turner's meeting to go to and soccer practice for the kids.

judaspre1982 · Post by **judaspre1982** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:56 pm

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JPG · Post by **JPG** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:42 pm

Not sure of the Greenie vintage, but later mark 5/V have a counter bore hole at the end of the keyway under the front edge of the idler sheave. The key has a crook in the end that slips down into that bore. When the idler sheave is installed on the shaft, that crook in the bore prevents the key from slipping along the length of the shaft.