Vortex Dust Separator

[Ron309753]

I am ging to Cincinnati next week. May have to go to the Rockler store to get one of these:

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=30068

Sincerely,

Ron309753

[dusty]

I am ging to Cincinnati next week. May have to go to the Rockler store to get one of these:

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=30068

Sincerely,

Ron309753

Can you explain how this works (what it does) that is not done by the Shopsmith DC? Is there anything special inside of the big blue canister?

Assumptions:

Chips are drawn into the big blue bucket and the suction is not enough to lift them back out.

Lighter materials (saw dust/dust) are drawn into the ShopVac.

Question: What is ultimately discharged out of the ShopVac? Is it the very small dust particles that do so much damage to our lungs?

[Ron309753]

Dusty,

I don't have a DC, so I can't answer that question. From what I read this does the same thing as Oneida's Dust Deputy. There are two elbows on the underside of the container lid that "create a cyclonic air flow that causes most wood dust particles and other materials that are heavier than air to separate, preventing them from being passed to the vacuum."

It does the same thing as Gene's homemade separator (see post 17): http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthr ... or+freight

I would think that your assumptions are correct.

Sincerely,

Ron309753

[anmius]

I am ging to Cincinnati next week. May have to go to the Rockler store to get one of these:

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=30068

Sincerely,

Ron309753

I have and use the Oneida dust Deputy and it works as advertised. Virtually no dust or particles reaches my shop vac which means I don't have to change the filter (at least not very often). And at $59 it is cheaper than the "Dust Right."

[Ron309753]

Actually I had considered getting a Dust Deputy, but to get one 'ready-to- use' with a container, fittings, and hose would cost $99.99. And to make it mobile would mean buying or making a platform for it.

I thought this would be a good alternative.

Sincerely,

Ron309753

[terrydowning]

Ron,
Please let us know how it works. I thought about the Dust deputy but at 5 Gals, it's a bit small. Father's Day is just around the corner!:D

[pennview]

This simply makes a two-stage collector that catches chips/dust in the barrel before they can reach the vacuum or dust collector.

I made something similar some years ago for a one HP Penn State dust collector using a 32 gallon trash can with a domed, snap on lid. The trash can was a Rubbermaid Roughneck with handles on the side that flipped up to hold the lid in place. I cut holes in opposite sides of the lid for two 4" hose-to-hose connectors (http://www.pennstateind.com/store/D4X4.html) and used hot-melt glue to seal/hold them in place. I just put the connectors on the lid, traced the circular outline with a Sharpie pen, and cut the openings with an xacto knife. I had planned to attach a board to the underside of the lid to prevent the chips/dust from flowing from one connector to the other and directly into the dust collector, but found that it was not necessary.

A two-stage setup like this makes it so much easier to empty than having to struggle with those plastic bags every time.

Here's a photo of the lid:
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This simply makes a two-stage collector that catches chips/dust in the barrel before they can reach the vacuum or dust collector.

I made something similar some years ago for a one HP Penn State dust collector using a 32 gallon trash can with a domed, snap on lid. The trash can was a Rubbermaid Roughneck with handles on the side that flipped up to hold the lid in place. I cut holes in opposite sides of the lid for two 4" hose-to-hose connectors (http://www.pennstateind.com/store/D4X4.html) and used hot-melt glue to seal/hold them in place. I just put the connectors on the lid, traced the circular outline with a Sharpie pen, and cut the openings with an xacto knife. I had planned to attach a board to the underside of the lid to prevent the chips/dust from flowing from one connector to the other and directly into the dust collector, but found that it was not necessary.

A two-stage setup like this makes it so much easier to empty than having to struggle with those plastic bags every time.

Here's a photo of the lid:
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Elbows?????

[robinson46176]

I don't want to catch chips, shavings, coarse dust or fine dust. I just want to move it all out of the shop. What I do want to do however is come up with some kind of trap that will keep some chunk or cutoff etc. from getting easily to the blower impeller but without having something that I have to keep emptying because it filled with shavings.
I guess I could uses something "like" the Rockler collector but make it so I could bypass it when using the 5 HP planer/molder. It is the volume shavings maker in the shop and I expect to use it a lot as soon as I can get started with the sawmill. During the initial dressing down of rough stock it makes a barrel full of shavings very quickly.


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[dusty]

I don't want to catch chips, shavings, coarse dust or fine dust. I just want to move it all out of the shop. What I do want to do however is come up with some kind of trap that will keep some chunk or cutoff etc. from getting easily to the blower impeller but without having something that I have to keep emptying because it filled with shavings.
I guess I could uses something "like" the Rockler collector but make it so I could bypass it when using the 5 HP planer/molder. It is the volume shavings maker in the shop and I expect to use it a lot as soon as I can get started with the sawmill. During the initial dressing down of rough stock it makes a barrel full of shavings very quickly.

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Just take the barrel away.