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TH workshop · Post by **TH workshop** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:31 am

the power switch and the headstock locking device. i got my "new" headstock housing and i have everything installed and ready to go expect these two things which i am having trouble removing. i cant seem to find the right size allen wrench for the handle on the headstock locking device.

TH workshop · Post by **TH workshop** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:40 pm

by the way i watched the video on the shopsmith website and i have the toggle switch but its not held in place by a socketable nut like they show. the nut that holds my switch is completely round with two small slits in it for a flat header screw driver im guessing. its being a real pain to get off

heathicus · Post by **heathicus** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:47 pm

I don't know what to suggest for the power switch, but I might can help with the lock. The handle is not attached to the rod with a screw (no wonder you can't find the right size allen wrench!), but with a roll pin. You'll have to use a punch to push it all the way through.

I didn't have the right sized punch, so I soaked mine with penetrating oil, then used a small blunt screw and a hammer and drove the pin all the way through. Whatever you use, you want it to be small enough to go through the hole in the handle, but large enough to push the roll pin out instead of going through it. Be sure to support the handle so you don't end up breaking anything. The roll pin goes back in a lot easier than it comes out.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:58 pm

TH workshop wrote:the power switch and the headstock locking device. i got my "new" headstock housing and i have everything installed and ready to go expect these two things which i am having trouble removing. i cant seem to find the right size allen wrench for the handle on the headstock locking device.

Theoretically, that nut will come off (go on) by using a screw driver in the slot on one side or the other. With no rust, this works.

PS: JPG says there is a special tool designed for this. Maybe he'll give us a source and part number.

Long, long ago, in my previous life as an AF maintenance technician, almost all switches were mounted in this fashion.

I'll go scrounging in my coffee cans this after noon to see if I can find an honest to goodness nut for that switch.

For the other problem I have only one thing to say. GO BUY A PIN PUNCH.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:00 pm

TH workshop wrote:by the way i watched the video on the shopsmith website and i have the toggle switch but its not held in place by a socketable nut like they show. the nut that holds my switch is completely round with two small slits in it for a flat header screw driver im guessing. its being a real pain to get off

The tool for that 'nut' is a hollow cylinder with protruding tabs that engage the slots on each side. The slots are short(in/out), but wide such that a 'normal screwdriver is too 'skinney' to be much use. I have used long nose pliers by sticking the points into the slots on both sides, then rotating the pliers. Once you get it started it will come off easily. Do not booger the slots, they are soft brass usually.

When all that fails, there are skinny vise lock pliers.

TH workshop · Post by **TH workshop** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:04 pm

heathicus wrote:I don't know what to suggest for the power switch, but I might can help with the lock. The handle is not attached to the rod with a screw (no wonder you can't find the right size allen wrench!), but with a roll pin. You'll have to use a punch to push it all the way through.

I didn't have the right sized punch, so I soaked mine with penetrating oil, then used a small blunt screw and a hammer and drove the pin all the way through. Whatever you use, you want it to be small enough to go through the hole in the handle, but large enough to push the roll pin out instead of going through it. Be sure to support the handle so you don't end up breaking anything. The roll pin goes back in a lot easier than it comes out.

Praise the Lord i got over the fear of breaking the switch and got it off! My poor eye sight could of sworn that the locking handing required an allen wrench. wow thats pretty bad. ok things are making alot more sense now. thanks for all the help guys. i hope to get her all put back together when i get off work later.

wingrider · Post by **wingrider** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:34 pm

I don't know about yours but the headstock locking device on my Greenie is pined and threaded on the shaft. If yours is the same the handle will have lefthand threads. Be careful as I didn't know it was threaded on and striped the threads on the handle.

robinson46176 · Post by **robinson46176** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:56 pm

If you cut it off as short as practical a common nail (of the proper diameter) ground square on the end will usually make an acceptable pin punch for roll pins. Cut it short and hold it with pliers. You can usually get some penetrating oil down into a roll pin.

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TH workshop · Post by **TH workshop** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:42 pm

well i got its all back together and working properly. turned it on and when thru the speed dial and of course it needed to be aligned with the proper speed function for what the motor was putting out. i get it lined up properly and put it back together and try to go thru the speed dial again. well i tried too hard i guess cuz the small gear that interacts with the labeled speed gear binded up and stripped out my speed handle with the SS logo. o well just one more lesson to be learned. gotta order a speed control handle now. but besides that everything else went fine

SDSSmith · Post by **SDSSmith** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:48 pm

TH workshop wrote:well i got its all back together and working properly. turned it on and when thru the speed dial and of course it needed to be aligned with the proper speed function for what the motor was putting out. i get it lined up properly and put it back together and try to go thru the speed dial again. well i tried too hard i guess cuz the small gear that interacts with the labeled speed gear binded up and stripped out my speed handle with the SS logo. o well just one more lesson to be learned. gotta order a speed control handle now. but besides that everything else went fine

This fellow does a nice job of repairing the speed control.