?? Too buy a Biscuit Joiner or Mortise attachment ??
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?? Too buy a Biscuit Joiner or Mortise attachment ??
Guys, please help me out. My tool budget only allows me to buy:
A) SS biscuit joiner
or
B) SS mortise attachment
What would you buy and why?
Thanks!
A) SS biscuit joiner
or
B) SS mortise attachment
What would you buy and why?
Thanks!
Rick
Hershey, PA
ShopSmith Mark V w/ Bandsaw, Jointer, & Belt Sander
Hershey, PA
ShopSmith Mark V w/ Bandsaw, Jointer, & Belt Sander
[INDENT]Is your budget based on new or used? New SS biscuit joiner for me is over $160 delivered]dauphin80 wrote:Guys, please help me out. My tool budget only allows me to buy:
A) SS biscuit joiner
or
B) SS mortise attachment
What would you buy and why?[INDENT] Thanks![/INDENT]

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Rob in San Diego
Email: SDSSmith51 AT gmail.com
Email: SDSSmith51 AT gmail.com
Evidently, you will be needing to join boards and also make mortises. I'll recommend the biscuit joiner. You can already make very nice mortises with your Shopsmith. Use the horizontal boring position and a Shopsmith router chuck. You use the rip fence as a backup.
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Chuck in Lancaster, CA
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When it comes to biscuit jointing (or joining), I far and away prefer one of the hand-held units. They are cheaper and far more versatile than one that mounts onto a shopsmith.
Mortising works with the shopsmith, but there are some flex issues. Enough so even the instructor at the traveling school didn't particularly recommend it. Takes a goodly bit of force, pushing that chisel housing through the wood. That said, it didn't seem terrible to me. Yes, the dedicated ones are a bit better, but the SS wasn't horrible.
I'd go handheld biscuit jointer and ss mortising.
Mortising works with the shopsmith, but there are some flex issues. Enough so even the instructor at the traveling school didn't particularly recommend it. Takes a goodly bit of force, pushing that chisel housing through the wood. That said, it didn't seem terrible to me. Yes, the dedicated ones are a bit better, but the SS wasn't horrible.
I'd go handheld biscuit jointer and ss mortising.
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foxtrapper wrote:When it comes to biscuit jointing (or joining), I far and away prefer one of the hand-held units. They are cheaper and far more versatile than one that mounts onto a shopsmith.
Mortising works with the shopsmith, but there are some flex issues. Enough so even the instructor at the traveling school didn't particularly recommend it. Takes a goodly bit of force, pushing that chisel housing through the wood. That said, it didn't seem terrible to me. Yes, the dedicated ones are a bit better, but the SS wasn't horrible.
I'd go handheld biscuit jointer and ss mortising.
That is what I did. I acquired a SS BJ with one I bought, puttered with it a little and sold it. I have a Bosch BJ but if I didn't I would probably just buy a BJ router bit and use that. I am old fashioned enough that I like dowels too.
If you slip an extension table in the right end of the SS (in drill press mode) and put a simple support between it and the main table it will take about all of the flex out of the main table.
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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robinson46176 wrote:That is what I did. I acquired a SS BJ with one I bought, puttered with it a little and sold it. I have a Bosch BJ but if I didn't I would probably just buy a BJ router bit and use that. I am old fashioned enough that I like dowels too.
If you slip an extension table in the right end of the SS (in drill press mode) and put a simple support between it and the main table it will take about all of the flex out of the main table.
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It being the edge of the extension table, or the mounting tubes?
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Charles, this sounds like a great idea. But, I'm a bit slow on this concept. Do you have a pic on the setup? I just don't get the router chuck. That's my hold up. Thanks for your help.charlese wrote:Evidently, you will be needing to join boards and also make mortises. I'll recommend the biscuit joiner. You can already make very nice mortises with your Shopsmith. Use the horizontal boring position and a Shopsmith router chuck. You use the rip fence as a backup.
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JPG40504 wrote:It being the edge of the extension table, or the mounting tubes?
For me the edge of the extension seemed best. The closer the support is to straight up and down the less likely it is to make the main table try to move any direction as pressure increases.
YMMV

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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill