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?? Too buy a Biscuit Joiner or Mortise attachment ??
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:10 pm
by dauphin80
Guys, please help me out. My tool budget only allows me to buy:
A) SS biscuit joiner
or
B) SS mortise attachment
What would you buy and why?
Thanks!
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:20 pm
by SDSSmith
dauphin80 wrote:Guys, please help me out. My tool budget only allows me to buy:
A) SS biscuit joiner
or
B) SS mortise attachment
What would you buy and why?[INDENT] Thanks![/INDENT]
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Is your budget based on new or used? New SS biscuit joiner for me is over $160 delivered]
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:57 pm
by charlese
Evidently, you will be needing to join boards and also make mortises. I'll recommend the biscuit joiner. You can already make very nice mortises with your Shopsmith. Use the horizontal boring position and a Shopsmith router chuck. You use the rip fence as a backup.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:39 am
by garys
The Shopsmith does a great job of joining boards using dowels and its drill press capabilities. If you let the Shopsmith do your hole alignment, you should be able to get almost perfect results with what you already have, and the biscuit joiner isn't needed.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:55 am
by dauphin80
Thanks guys for all the thoughts. It does give me something to think about!!
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:06 am
by foxtrapper
When it comes to biscuit jointing (or joining), I far and away prefer one of the hand-held units. They are cheaper and far more versatile than one that mounts onto a shopsmith.
Mortising works with the shopsmith, but there are some flex issues. Enough so even the instructor at the traveling school didn't particularly recommend it. Takes a goodly bit of force, pushing that chisel housing through the wood. That said, it didn't seem terrible to me. Yes, the dedicated ones are a bit better, but the SS wasn't horrible.
I'd go handheld biscuit jointer and ss mortising.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:47 am
by robinson46176
foxtrapper wrote:When it comes to biscuit jointing (or joining), I far and away prefer one of the hand-held units. They are cheaper and far more versatile than one that mounts onto a shopsmith.
Mortising works with the shopsmith, but there are some flex issues. Enough so even the instructor at the traveling school didn't particularly recommend it. Takes a goodly bit of force, pushing that chisel housing through the wood. That said, it didn't seem terrible to me. Yes, the dedicated ones are a bit better, but the SS wasn't horrible.
I'd go handheld biscuit jointer and ss mortising.
That is what I did. I acquired a SS BJ with one I bought, puttered with it a little and sold it. I have a Bosch BJ but if I didn't I would probably just buy a BJ router bit and use that. I am old fashioned enough that I like dowels too.
If you slip an extension table in the right end of the SS (in drill press mode) and put a simple support between it and the main table it will take about all of the flex out of the main table.
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:13 am
by JPG
robinson46176 wrote:That is what I did. I acquired a SS BJ with one I bought, puttered with it a little and sold it. I have a Bosch BJ but if I didn't I would probably just buy a BJ router bit and use that. I am old fashioned enough that I like dowels too.
If you slip an extension table in the right end of the SS (in drill press mode) and put a simple support between it and the main table it will take about all of the flex out of the main table.
.
It being the edge of the extension table, or the mounting tubes?

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:03 pm
by swampgator
charlese wrote:Evidently, you will be needing to join boards and also make mortises. I'll recommend the biscuit joiner. You can already make very nice mortises with your Shopsmith. Use the horizontal boring position and a Shopsmith router chuck. You use the rip fence as a backup.
Charles, this sounds like a great idea. But, I'm a bit slow on this concept. Do you have a pic on the setup? I just don't get the router chuck. That's my hold up. Thanks for your help.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:07 pm
by robinson46176
JPG40504 wrote:It being the edge of the extension table, or the mounting tubes?

For me the edge of the extension seemed best. The closer the support is to straight up and down the less likely it is to make the main table try to move any direction as pressure increases.
YMMV
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