local SS for sale--a good deal?

mrhart · Post by **mrhart** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:05 am

A guy I found has a ss for sale, a 50th anniv 510, with dc and bandsaw. It has never cut anything or even been assembled! While cash is an issue, he may do a trade. Meeting this pm to discuss. 1k the figure he trhough at me.
Has it been harmful for the motor and drive system to sit and be immobile that long?

damagi · Post by **damagi** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:30 am

mrhart wrote:A guy I found has a ss for sale, a 50th anniv 510, with dc and bandsaw. It has never cut anything or even been assembled! While cash is an issue, he may do a trade. Meeting this pm to discuss. 1k the figure he trhough at me.
Has it been harmful for the motor and drive system to sit and be immobile that long?

Its around the right price. They go for about there around here, but tend to have more accessories at that price.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:48 am

In my opinion, having set unused for awhile does very little if any damage. Just get it lubricated and cleaned out before you use it. Inspect the belts, also. After you start using it, be sensitive to its performance; ie, listen to it for a change in sound. Belts may need to be retensioned and you can lubricate it again.

STB · Post by **STB** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:17 pm

mrhart wrote:A guy I found has a ss for sale, a 50th anniv 510, with dc and bandsaw. It has never cut anything or even been assembled! While cash is an issue, he may do a trade. Meeting this pm to discuss. 1k the figure he trhough at me.
Has it been harmful for the motor and drive system to sit and be immobile that long?

I purchased a 2003 50th anniversary that the seller used for one project. It set unused in Las Vegas desert air until march of 2011, when I used the SS for several projects.
I think Dusty's advice is right on. I would of saved myself several annoying problems (including a bearing failure) if I would have read the manual and preformed the maintenance procedures as Dusty suggested.

mrhart · Post by **mrhart** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:34 am

So I look at the machine, it has never been assembled, but not stored super well either. It has been uncovered for at least part of the time. Looks like the carriage could clean up pretty well, I extended the quill and there was a little moisute and a little rust as it slid out and it didn't slide back in by itself. Owner wanted to run it and I told him not at this point. The BS is in a damaged box and and has saw a little moisture on the handle for the table adjustment. All acc look to be there and still in packaging. Anyone wanting to give their 2 cents?

fiatben · Post by **fiatben** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:02 am

There is nothing on a SS that can't be fixed, and most of it is surprisingly easy. I would think this is especially true on a "new in the box" one. However, you obviously will have to do a complete maintenance before being able to use this machine and the same with its accessories. You can always offer less than he's asking (especially after pointing these things out) and the worst is he'll say no. I'd even leave a standing offer and walk away to see if he calls later and agrees. Then I'd call back after an appropriate amount of time and see if he's ameniable at that point to a reduced price.
Overall, it sounds like a good deal, but I'd want to knock a couple of hundred off before I jumped. Just my two cents.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:29 pm

At 1k you can consider the bs is 200, the dc another 200 so the 510 is 600. Not a bad price for any one of them.

The condition of said rust is something only you can evaluate. If it still allows movement(the quill) it is not severe(it ain't 'frozen stuck').

The presence of moisture on exterior surfaces(handles) may or may not be a sign. Was this out in the cold and then just before you got there brought into a heated area(or the heat turned on after being off)? I would expect condensation in those instances.

My thinking(based on very inadequate first hand knowledge of the market in Idaho) is that there are probably not too many potential suc....ah potential customers 'way out there' so it may be a buyer's market. However northern plains folks are a no-nonsense hardy frugal stubborn mind set.

I think a counter offer of $750(for starters) done in the right manner(I leave that to you to determine what that is) may at least get things started. What you do from that point depends upon his reaction.

I have to also assume there are not many 'available' either, so the seller may think it is a seller's market.

Trick is finding the middle ground!

Go for It! As Ben said, it can be fixed!!!

Good Luck!!!;)

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:37 pm

mrhart wrote:So I look at the machine, it has never been assembled, but not stored super well either. It has been uncovered for at least part of the time. Looks like the carriage could clean up pretty well, I extended the quill and there was a little moisute and a little rust as it slid out and it didn't slide back in by itself. Owner wanted to run it and I told him not at this point. The BS is in a damaged box and and has saw a little moisture on the handle for the table adjustment. All acc look to be there and still in packaging. Anyone wanting to give their 2 cents?

I believe you have to ask yourself if you want this puppy. Do you already have an operational Mark V or would this set be your starter shop.

If you believe that the three units are really unused and the only damage is from being stored, I would give him a low number and be very willing to come up. Actually, I would not feel robbed if I got it for the starting offer of $1000 but I would barter.

Hope you get it (if you want it). If I was closer, you wouldn't want to waste any time making up your mind because it would be mine.

wingrider · Post by **wingrider** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:46 pm

Two years ago, I looked at a Mark V 500 that a guy had for sale on Craigslist. It has a bandsaw, jointer, belt sander, shaper, and planer with it and a foot locker full of blades, bits and other accessory. He was asking $900. for it. I offered him $700. and he jumped on my offer. By the way it is a 1987 model. I think I did alright on it as I have had to do nothing to it but normal maintenance. So I agree with the others, offer him less and see if he bites as you may have to spend some time and a little money to get it back to running condition.

fjimp · Post by **fjimp** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:29 pm

This reminds me of purchasing a similar 50th anniversary 510 a few years ago. I paid $800 including a band saw. The unit I purchased wasn't in great shape. The folks that owned it didn't have a clue what they had or how to care for it. I upgraded it to a 520 did a bunch of cleaning and service work. Although it is essentially used as a sanding station today it has saved me several times over and I would do it agqain in a heartbeat. $1,000 seems about two hundred to high. Jim

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local SS for sale--a good deal?

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