I've had this for a year or so, I just finished a project with it this weekend and it seems to run ok. But, speed dial not smooth, lock does not feel right and tighten properly, the tubes and all components could be smoother and my paint job was pretty sketchy. I looked up all the info here on restorations...holy crap, there's alot! I read and looked over the info until my wife thought I was obsessed. It didn't help that I showed her the before and after pics of the incredible restorations done by some of you, and told her "look hunny, aren't they beatiful". She thinks I have a set screw loose......... Then I saw the opening on Saturday, wife and kids busy, just do it.
Then I took some pics, sorry to bore those who have seen these threads a zillion times.
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R Hart
Then I printed this.
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And dug in, it's a little intimidating, but it is February again. (last February I changed the motor out in my 93 chey step-side, in the driveway, in the snow, and the rain, and the rain, and the rain..good times). I'm guessing there is several tricks to sliding the headstock off the tubes easily, don't remember reading those, I ended up standing it up in drill press position-putting a sawhorse on the floor straddling the tubes and laying it back down. I could move the saw horse back and forth to get the right heighth for sliding the headstock off. I noticed that it did not seem very grungy like I was expecting...
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Then I got to the motor...I had to go tell the wife the good news. "Hunny great news! Shes got a 11/8th!" The wife did not share the excitment, crazy I know.
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That just doesn't look like it would work..but I'm not a German engineer.
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I made the little jig to compress the spring "beware the spring" I believe I read somewhere. I came up with a different way to compress. And just to get the wife a little more excited about the project, I did have her hold the wood strip whilest I clamped.
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And dug in, it's a little intimidating, but it is February again. (last February I changed the motor out in my 93 chey step-side, in the driveway, in the snow, and the rain, and the rain, and the rain..good times). I'm guessing there is several tricks to sliding the headstock off the tubes easily, don't remember reading those, I ended up standing it up in drill press position-putting a sawhorse on the floor straddling the tubes and laying it back down. I could move the saw horse back and forth to get the right heighth for sliding the headstock off. I noticed that it did not seem very grungy like I was expecting...
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Then I got to the motor...I had to go tell the wife the good news. "Hunny great news! Shes got a 11/8th!" The wife did not share the excitment, crazy I know.
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That just doesn't look like it would work..but I'm not a German engineer.
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I made the little jig to compress the spring "beware the spring" I believe I read somewhere. I came up with a different way to compress. And just to get the wife a little more excited about the project, I did have her hold the wood strip whilest I clamped.
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R Hart
So I do have questions. I can spin the shaft here and it spins after I let go and seems smooth. There is a "race" sound. All normal 
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The speed dial did not want to come off. Further inspection shows some teeth issues. I'm hoping it's not too expensive, logo on it and custom race red paint..
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I had remembered reading about removing a pin? right after I tried to stick a small allen wrench down the hole of the headstock lock handle..yea, found the pin. Also found one of my other issues.
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But machine is remarkabley cleaner than I had expected. I got it from someone who was stotring it in a barn, and moving that day. I have no history on it other than that guy never worked on it for sure.
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The speed dial did not want to come off. Further inspection shows some teeth issues. I'm hoping it's not too expensive, logo on it and custom race red paint..
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I had remembered reading about removing a pin? right after I tried to stick a small allen wrench down the hole of the headstock lock handle..yea, found the pin. Also found one of my other issues.
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But machine is remarkabley cleaner than I had expected. I got it from someone who was stotring it in a barn, and moving that day. I have no history on it other than that guy never worked on it for sure.
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R Hart
Here's a way to get your speed dial repaired.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOP-MITH-MARK-V-PEED-CONTROL-KNOB-REPAIR-FREE-HIP-NEW-LOW-PRICE-/220940417862?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3371133b46
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOP-MITH-MARK-V-PEED-CONTROL-KNOB-REPAIR-FREE-HIP-NEW-LOW-PRICE-/220940417862?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3371133b46
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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He ran out of 'messed up ones'.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SHOPSMITH-MARK-V-SPEED-CONTROL-KNOB-REPAIR-FREE-SHIP-NEW-LOW-PRICE-/320846643782?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab3f34246
"Newlow price"
Still a bargain. Only delay is snail mail(first class no less). You do not get 'yours' back, but so what!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SHOPSMITH-MARK-V-SPEED-CONTROL-KNOB-REPAIR-FREE-SHIP-NEW-LOW-PRICE-/320846643782?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab3f34246
"Newlow price"
Still a bargain. Only delay is snail mail(first class no less). You do not get 'yours' back, but so what!
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Easy On-Off (Headstock)
To remove/install the headstock, use a 2x4 under the carriage and lower the table until the end of the tubes clears the end of the machine.
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Too late now for removal but maybe it will help with the reinstall.
Isn't amazing that the machines continue to be functional even when several small things have broken?
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Too late now for removal but maybe it will help with the reinstall.
Isn't amazing that the machines continue to be functional even when several small things have broken?
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Eccentric belt tensioner works(as long as you do not concern yourself with external alignment!).
You pried those wedges off, or did the PO? If the threads are ok, and the bevel is flat, deburr them and use them!
I assume the PO mounted the power switch with the stop bracket (predecessor to the 'anti-rattle' spring) on top of the speed indicator dial. It is probably 'bent' (out). Restore original shape 'carefully'. That button rides in that mysterious groove in the back of the indicator dial. It must be depressed slightly to adjust speed above 'Saw Joint'. These are rarely found on e-bay and then usually in a junk parts collection.
BTW you have an "A" headstock.
With a 'new' motor, it may also be poly-v! Nope, I took a closer look - tis a Gilmer!
You pried those wedges off, or did the PO? If the threads are ok, and the bevel is flat, deburr them and use them!
I assume the PO mounted the power switch with the stop bracket (predecessor to the 'anti-rattle' spring) on top of the speed indicator dial. It is probably 'bent' (out). Restore original shape 'carefully'. That button rides in that mysterious groove in the back of the indicator dial. It must be depressed slightly to adjust speed above 'Saw Joint'. These are rarely found on e-bay and then usually in a junk parts collection.
BTW you have an "A" headstock.
With a 'new' motor, it may also be poly-v! Nope, I took a closer look - tis a Gilmer!
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[quote="JPG40504"]Eccentric belt tensioner works(as long as you do not concern yourself with external alignment!).]The PO or PPO maybe did the[/color] prying, but the headstock does not tighten properly so I was assuming the threads are messed up. Replacement was my plan there.
I assume the PO mounted the power switch with the stop bracket (predecessor to the 'anti-rattle' spring) on top of the speed indicator dial. It is probably 'bent' (out). Restore original shape 'carefully'. That button rides in that mysterious groove in the back of the indicator dial. It must be depressed slightly to adjust speed above 'Saw Joint'. These are rarely found on e-bay and then usually in a junk parts collection. Did not know what I had there.
BTW you have an "A" headstock. What is the diff, A-B? I had no clutch?
With a 'new' motor, it may also be poly-v! Nope, I took a closer look - tis a Gilmer! Lower belt is7/16" wide, replace?
I assume the PO mounted the power switch with the stop bracket (predecessor to the 'anti-rattle' spring) on top of the speed indicator dial. It is probably 'bent' (out). Restore original shape 'carefully'. That button rides in that mysterious groove in the back of the indicator dial. It must be depressed slightly to adjust speed above 'Saw Joint'. These are rarely found on e-bay and then usually in a junk parts collection. Did not know what I had there.
BTW you have an "A" headstock. What is the diff, A-B? I had no clutch?
With a 'new' motor, it may also be poly-v! Nope, I took a closer look - tis a Gilmer! Lower belt is7/16" wide, replace?
R Hart
[quote="fiatben"]To remove/install the headstock, use a 2x4 under the carriage and lower the table until the end of the tubes clears the end of the machine.
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Too late now for removal but maybe it will help with the reinstall.
Isn't amazing that the machines continue to be functional even when several small things have broken?
Or what's amazing is, I new it had a few issues and kept using it
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Too late now for removal but maybe it will help with the reinstall.
Isn't amazing that the machines continue to be functional even when several small things have broken?
Or what's amazing is, I new it had a few issues and kept using it
R Hart
maybe my learning curve can shorten yours
Two years ago I bought a '55 and went thru it:
http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthr ... lady+green
Had a lot of similar issues, maybe my experiences and pictures can help you thru yours.
One thing I found invaluable was the Sawdust Sessions on rehabbing a used Shopsmith. The link can be found under the Maintenance Forum stickys.
http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthr ... lady+green
Had a lot of similar issues, maybe my experiences and pictures can help you thru yours.
One thing I found invaluable was the Sawdust Sessions on rehabbing a used Shopsmith. The link can be found under the Maintenance Forum stickys.
'55 Greenie #292284 (Mar-55), '89 SS 510 #020989, Mark VII #408551 (sold 10/14/12), SS Band Saw, (SS 500 #36063 (May-79) now gone to son-in-law as of 11-11), Magna bandsaw, Magna jointer 16185 (May-54), Magna belt sander SS28712 (Dec-82), Magna jigsaw SS4397 (Dec-78), SS biscuit joiner, Zyliss (knockoff) vise, 20+ hand planes, 60s Craftsman tablesaw, CarbaTec mini-lathe, and the usual pile of tools. Hermit of the Hills Woodworks, a hillbilly in the foothills of the Ozarks, scraping by.