New casters

[dusty]

Okay, maybe I'm just trying to keep life too simple, but owing to words in the above quote like "rolls so much easier" and "best part is NO modifications" & the pics showing positions, and (probably) because few of us really roll our Shopsmiths over the kind of rough terrain that necessitates bigger wheels, why go through all the trouble to re-drill, maybe take the legs off(?) when a drop in part gives you comments like those? (Mine made such a difference & work so well, that I can't even imagine that a bigger wheel would be worth the screw around time)
(what we need here is for someone to get a set of each size & do a side-by-side rollaround comparison)
Also (now see, you've got me going again) the 80 lb weight on each of 4 wheels, I think that gives overall capacity of 320 lbs. That should handle a MK5 and all but the biggest underneath cabinets, and I think the big ones that I've seen have their own wheels, don't they?

You don't seem to understand. Much of this is a direct result of the addiction. If I am not making sawdust - I am doing something else in the shop. Putting on new and bigger wheels falls into that category of "something else in the shop" (aka the addiction).

I tried rolling my Mark V out into the drive way but that did not work so well. I am now looking for drop in swivel wheels with bigger wheels yet. I need wheels that will roll in loose gravel.

[cooch366]

trainguytom, we are on the same page, and I TOTALLY agree with you that a bigger wheel, and needed drilling in my case are not worth the time to screw with.

They worked so well, I ordered another set for a second unit I just picked up and will be installing them on it.

Sorry but they work for me, and don't need to do a weight test and determine how much does it take to move it with different size wheels. I'll leave that for someone else to determine.

For me these wheels rock, (oh never mind) roll.....

Okay, maybe I'm just trying to keep life too simple, but owing to words in the above quote like "rolls so much easier" and "best part is NO modifications" & the pics showing positions, and (probably) because few of us really roll our Shopsmiths over the kind of rough terrain that necessitates bigger wheels, why go through all the trouble to re-drill, maybe take the legs off(?) when a drop in part gives you comments like those? (Mine made such a difference & work so well, that I can't even imagine that a bigger wheel would be worth the screw around time)
(what we need here is for someone to get a set of each size & do a side-by-side rollaround comparison)
Also (now see, you've got me going again) the 80 lb weight on each of 4 wheels, I think that gives overall capacity of 320 lbs. That should handle a MK5 and all but the biggest underneath cabinets, and I think the big ones that I've seen have their own wheels, don't they?

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Okay, maybe I'm just trying to keep life too simple, but owing to words in the above quote like "rolls so much easier" and "best part is NO modifications" & the pics showing positions, and (probably) because few of us really roll our Shopsmiths over the kind of rough terrain that necessitates bigger wheels, why go through all the trouble to re-drill, maybe take the legs off(?) when a drop in part gives you comments like those? (Mine made such a difference & work so well, that I can't even imagine that a bigger wheel would be worth the screw around time)
(what we need here is for someone to get a set of each size & do a side-by-side rollaround comparison)
Also (now see, you've got me going again) the 80 lb weight on each of 4 wheels, I think that gives overall capacity of 320 lbs. That should handle a MK5 and all but the biggest underneath cabinets, and I think the big ones that I've seen have their own wheels, don't they?

Some folks we all know already done that!]http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... asters.htm[/URL]

Yes Beeg, I would follow 'those' instructions until the author changes them!:D

[robinson46176]

My complaint with a lot of casters including Shopsmith has nothing to do with rolling but their resistance to swiveling. On something long like a SS I often find myself pushing or pulling from one end and then have to walk around to one side to shove the other end the direction I want to go because it is usually wanting to make a different choice.
Flipping the item over and lubing it usually makes a big difference for a while but then you have to do it all over again in 10 or 12 years.
My choice of casters on anything of any weight definitely includes having ball bearing swivels.

I wonder how many machines get dumped over and damaged each year due to a caster wheel hitting a crack or a rock or small piece of wood bringing it to a sudden stop.
A lot of machines are really top heavy. The afore mentioned TS-3650 wheels nice but "IS" a touch top heavy when lifted. My much loved SS old Mark VII is also a bit more top heavy than my Mark V's. I am really careful rolling my Foley-Belsaw 5 HP planer/molder/ripsaw. It feels quite top heavy to me.
My Push-me / Pull me drill press is more top heavy that a Mark V since it has two headstocks and two table assemblies always up in vertical mode. I am planning on building a heavy low shelf under it just for weight. Maybe a good place to store a 500 year supply of fish sinkers.


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My complaint with a lot of casters including Shopsmith has nothing to do with rolling but their resistance to swiveling. On something long like a SS I often find myself pushing or pulling from one end and then have to walk around to one side to shove the other end the direction I want to go because it is usually wanting to make a different choice.
Flipping the item over and lubing it usually makes a big difference for a while but then you have to do it all over again in 10 or 12 years.
My choice of casters on anything of any weight definitely includes having ball bearing swivels.

I wonder how many machines get dumped over and damaged each year due to a caster wheel hitting a crack or a rock or small piece of wood bringing it to a sudden stop.
A lot of machines are really top heavy. The afore mentioned TS-3650 wheels nice but "IS" a touch top heavy when lifted. My much loved SS old Mark VII is also a bit more top heavy than my Mark V's. I am really careful rolling my Foley-Belsaw 5 HP planer/molder/ripsaw. It feels quite top heavy to me.
My Push-me / Pull me drill press is more top heavy that a Mark V since it has two headstocks and two table assemblies always up in vertical mode. I am planning on building a heavy low shelf under it just for weight. Maybe a good place to store a 500 year supply of fish sinkers.


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Or a couple bags of CEMENT!

[fjimp]

You don't seem to understand. Much of this is a direct result of the addiction. If I am not making sawdust - I am doing something else in the shop. Putting on new and bigger wheels falls into that category of "something else in the shop" (aka the addiction).

I tried rolling my Mark V out into the drive way but that did not work so well. I am now looking for drop in swivel wheels with bigger wheels yet. I need wheels that will roll in loose gravel.

So in my opinion easier rolling wheels with no interference issues when turning tool around feeds my addiction. Jim

[trainguytom]

Finally, I get it. I had forgotten about that. You see, awhile back I had that affliction, too. I satisfied my uncontrollable urges to putz with the machines rather than build with the machines by buying Mark 5's (usually Greenies & brownies were what I was finding) & re-building them for friends, relatives, anyone with cash. [ATTACH]16023[/ATTACH]

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I didn't have much time left over for woodworking. A little while back, I decided I had to stop doing that so I could focus on woodworking...use the Smith for what it was intended, I suppose. (and my kids need furniture) So I made up my mind not to putz, hence the quick & simple wheel solution. That really has been working out well for me...until yesterday. A had lunch with a woodworker friend who bought one of my restoration Smiths, and he asked if I had another for himself. (I think he's catching the disease, Lord help him)
So I started looking. I may have found one. It'll probably need a rebuild...oh boy...here we go again. (at least I know where to go for cheap & easy to install wheels)

[backhertz]

Wow! Great rebuild pic on that Mark V- is it a "brownie"? I have more Shopsmiths than I have space for & I'm buying another 510 tomorrow which includes a large Incra fence system, a planer, jointer, and is in excellent shape for me to finally put my PowerPro motor upgrade in and get to use it in fiishing our renovation on our house. I was going to dig out stuff whihc was carefully packed in our basement only to find 3 headstocks- with all pieces in various stages of being rebuilt. I bought all new bearings, quadrant assemblies, control sheave assemblies, etc, changed out the single bear quills to double, and anything that showed the slightest wear- I replaced. So when I'm done, I'll have 3 brand new or better headstocks as I purchased the best bearings I could find. But the Power Pro changed my priority to rebuild the other headstocks until I finish the renovation on the house. Otherwise I'll be alone...well, I'll still have about a dozen Shopsmiths (10E/10ER/Greenie/500/510, & a 520 soon to be a Mark 7.

It's been going on 4 years now & I wondered if using any over-sized bearings or quill modifications would help with the slight amount of runout- which isn't much.
I worked in a roller rink in my early years and did away with cones and ball bearings and went to sealed bearings for all the rental skates. But I wonder if it would be work pursing. But you get what you pay for and the cost of no run out would probably be more expensive than simple using other tools to correct.

I plan on using a 10ER as a drill press/metal mill. That should be interesting. I have a 1.5 DC motor for that. But I have to prepare for a new baby to be brought home tomorrow. I have a MArk V mounted planner in addition to my stand alone. I wonder with the Power Pro, if that will perform better than the stand alone planer.

Once my shop is set up, I will refinish all the Shopsmiths I don't need- I even have speed increasers & reducers/ a ringmaster/ lathe duplicator and all kinds of things I have not touched in years along with four speed changers for my 10E/ERs.

I need to do an inventory one of these days.

Tony

[camerio]

Hi Tony,

Congratulations on the new baby that will be coming home ... You could transformed one of your Shopsmith as a cradle since you have so many ... just kidding ... Let us know about the baby and the mother ... it would be fun to see a picture.
When you restore, do you take pictures ? It would be interesting that you would post some and tell us about your restorations.
You should update your profile to tell us your location ...
I hope that when you mentioned a new baby, you did not mean another Shopsmith ...

[JPG]

That be a 'brownie' aka 'goldie'.

Inventory? You need a 'clearance sale'!:D