JPG40504 wrote:I would guess a burr on the inside of the drilled hole, or a burr in the keyway slot of either the shaft or the sheave.
You were right, I got out the needle file and dressed the keyway, finally got it to where it's happy. Now I'm just waiting for new belts to arrive and we'll see how she goes.
New belts arrived in Friday's mail so the assembly began apace. I had never seen this machine together, since it was a pile of parts when I got it. Originally all I was really after was the table.... So I was missing lots of the hardware to assemble the carriage and headstock- got some stainless that looks sharp. The PO of this machine also thought the motor had failed as it bogged down under load, and he was given an odd sounding diagnosis from a motor shop. So I was curious to see how- or if- it would work when put to a test. I have skipped a lot of cosmetic work that could be done on this machine. Partly because I didn't want to proceed if I couldn't get it running. Mostly just impatience.
Got it all together Friday about 10 pm- but I was feeling vague on some details and was missing a couple set screws for the way tubes. I wisely decide to wait till morning which was a good thing since my speed control assembly was incorrect in several particulars. It also occurred to me to borrow set screws from the other machine.
I must have installed the speed control assembly three times before I was happy. The last time I put the speed control on it finally occurred to me to put the alan wrench in the set screw before I put in on the shaft, instead of peering down the hole with a flash light trying to find it.
I managed to get the belt wedged in between the control sheaves the first time I assembled it, the motor wouldn't start in that condition- it just hummed. That was the most fiasco-like event to date, but finally got it sorted out. This is the result:
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It's not a glamour shot. I just had to start turning immediately and liked how well it worked, it seems to have ample power for this light duty work at least. For the moment I will enjoy this- tomorrow it will back to list making and cleaning way tubes, since there's another machine waiting in the wings. Here's a short of the dust making setup:
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thanks to all the folks who have posted great info and helpful tips- it makes things so much easier.
Decided to bench mount the SS so cut down the legs and extended the length of the old bench screwed it to the wall and set about making brackets to secure the SS. I made some brackets from angle iron and tapped them to fit the carriage casting screws. In the process I discovered some differences in the two ends. I found that I had to bend the angle irons to be slightly greater than 90 degrees to match the castings. lacking a metal break I tested some improvised solutions involving vises and hammers mostly.
Even though the voice of the good craftsman warned me not to test the strength of the casting the bad craftsman won this one and I managed to crack the casting.
Exhibit A:
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I make enough stupid mistakes that I am usually pretty philosophical about it, but this time not so much, threw down the wrench and stormed out swearing.
After coolng off switched tactics, cut out a plywood insert to proper angle on the bandsaw, through bolted it to the bench and screwed the cashing into that. The whole is very stable feeling and works great as a lathe without vibration- so far.
cranehead wrote:New from the fix it till it breaks dept.
Decided to bench mount the SS so cut down the legs and extended the length of the old bench screwed it to the wall and set about making brackets to secure the SS. I made some brackets from angle iron and tapped them to fit the carriage casting screws. In the process I discovered some differences in the two ends. I found that I had to bend the angle irons to be slightly greater than 90 degrees to match the castings. lacking a metal break I tested some improvised solutions involving vises and hammers mostly.
Even though the voice of the good craftsman warned me not to test the strength of the casting the bad craftsman won this one and I managed to crack the casting.
Exhibit A:
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I make enough stupid mistakes that I am usually pretty philosophical about it, but this time not so much, threw down the wrench and stormed out swearing.
After coolng off switched tactics, cut out a plywood insert to proper angle on the bandsaw, through bolted it to the bench and screwed the cashing into that. The whole is very stable feeling and works great as a lathe without vibration- so far.
This is what it looks like:
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TC
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F. Jim Parks
Lakewood, Colorado:)
When the love of power is replaced by the power of love the world will have a chance for survival.
I am sorry to learn what has happened. Your rebuild was looking great and it still is.
Be thankful that it broke where it did. When I first read this, I thought you had cracked the headstock casting. This piece can be replaced almost any day of the week from eBay for about $20 plus shipping.
In the meantime, it appears as though it is quite useable.
"Making Sawdust Safely" Dusty
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I've been putting off sanding the next set of way tubes, finally decided that since I had a working Shopsmith I could use that to sand them. Other folks have done this and I've seen those threads. This was my implementation:
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close up:
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These tubes have some nasty pitting- any way to fix this. JB weld to fill then sand? anybody try this?
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I'm fixin to reassemble the Gray (aka SS79) this week and see how she goes. That will tide me over until I find a replacement tailstock for the Green.
When MickyD did his 10ER, the tubes were 'gross' and very badly pitted. He sanded them down to remove the pits. When he finished, the od was only a few thousands smaller.
It should work ok as is, but removing the pits makes it 'look' better.
IIWM I would use em as is and decide later if removal is a 'good
(necessary)' thing.
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I am posting the ultimate finish of the double re-furb of the green and gray shopsmiths ca 1955 and 1979. They're as close to finished as they are likely to be anytime soon so I reckon I'll post a pic to prove it. There's enough parts for about 1 5/8 shopsmiths or so, they both have all new bearings are functional though. Unforeseen budgetary constraints prevail so we're now spending only on tooling for the lathe function. I sprung for the nova chuck- (which exceeded the purchase price of both shopsmiths) and its working great. Planning to add live center, faceplates, sanding disk....beltsander, some decent lathe chisels that aren't 60 years old- and so it goes.
Green or Gray - they both look great. It just goes to show. A little TLC goes a long way.
Please let me flash back to the wheels used to mount the tubes during the sanding process. Are they simply attached to boards that are in turn clamped to Mark V tailstock??
"Making Sawdust Safely" Dusty
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