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Good Job Dusty!

I would add that if it is(my money rides with Dusty's) the motor, that this will get ya further down the road to removing it for 'analysis'.
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And since everything is open and exposed, now is the perfect time to clean the inside of the headstock and inspect the condition of all the moving parts.
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terrydowning wrote:And since everything is open and exposed, now is the perfect time to clean the inside of the headstock and inspect the condition of all the moving parts.

And do as Beeg has said many times, 'Lubricate it!'(aka Maintenance).
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update:
Was finally able to get out to garage when warm enough to move around out there. Took the covers off.....holy cow, don't think the previous owner did a bit of maintenance. Ever. I could ID probably 5 or 6 different types of wood via the sawdust.
So, blew it out, lubed the two.....spindles....whatever, you guys know the names...with sewing machine oil, unhooked the belt, motor turned fine. Plugged it in, turned it on, motor spun up beautifully. Nice and quiet, no vibrations.
Unplugged, put everything back together manually spun up the speed control (per instructions) and back down a couple times. Plugged 'er back in, and with a bit of a prayer, flipped the switch, and we have magic! She's all good now. The speed control is a bit tough to turn at the lower end, but seems to get better with use, and probably with more cleaning. I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a bigger issue on my hands.
Also need to get on to the task of cleaning up the accessories. This guy was no engineer I'd like to work with. Lots of spot rust, and just generally very poor maintenance procedures with all of the accessories:( .....and no sanding disc. Really? The one thing that I was not concerned with being there, isn't. Sigh. Oh well, I'll find one shortly, I'm sure.
Anyway - Good on ya Dusty....you called it. Just dirty.
Thanks everyone for the advice...it was VERY helpful.
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beernbourbon wrote:update:
Was finally able to get out to garage when warm enough to move around out there. Took the covers off.....holy cow, don't think the previous owner did a bit of maintenance. Ever. I could ID probably 5 or 6 different types of wood via the sawdust.
So, blew it out, lubed the two.....spindles....whatever, you guys know the names...with sewing machine oil, unhooked the belt, motor turned fine. Plugged it in, turned it on, motor spun up beautifully. Nice and quiet, no vibrations.
Unplugged, put everything back together manually spun up the speed control (per instructions) and back down a couple times. Plugged 'er back in, and with a bit of a prayer, flipped the switch, and we have magic! She's all good now. The speed control is a bit tough to turn at the lower end, but seems to get better with use, and probably with more cleaning. I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a bigger issue on my hands.
Also need to get on to the task of cleaning up the accessories. This guy was no engineer I'd like to work with. Lots of spot rust, and just generally very poor maintenance procedures with all of the accessories:( .....and no sanding disc. Really? The one thing that I was not concerned with being there, isn't. Sigh. Oh well, I'll find one shortly, I'm sure.
Anyway - Good on ya Dusty....you called it. Just dirty.
Thanks everyone for the advice...it was VERY helpful.
Very pleased to hear that you are up and running. What was most likely preventing it from starting in the beginning was the centrifugal switch. I suspect dust between the contacts (in the switch mechanism) preventing them from closing. The cleaning simply disrupting the collection of dust and allowing the start switch (centrifugal switch) to do its job (allow start current to flow into the motor windings).

You can clean and lubricate much more often than the guide lines indicate and NO DAMAGE will be done. More is better than not enough.:)
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The speed control 'tough' at the slow end is likely caused by the speed control quadrant gear misalignment due to the arms on the control opening up. This is caused by forcing the speed down too quickly.
A pix of the porkchop would help us determine if that is so.

Do realize that it will be 'tough' if you adjust it downward too quickly. It is that resistance that causes the misalignment mentioned above.

The arms opening up causes the worm gear to skew relative to the quadrant gear and create excessive wear which exacerbates it all.
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