Outfeed Table

[dusty]

[quote="JPG40504"]Add a 5/8" offset.]

It is not that simple JPG. An offset will alter the amount the table droops. It might even eliminate it if the offset amount is the correct amount. But I have built three different configurations with different positioning methods and have not hit pay dirt yet.

I suspect that this may be one of the reasons why Shopsmith has not yet released their version to the market place.

[wasatch]

Here is a picture of one of them. I still have to scotchbrite and paint them.

[dusty]

Here is a picture of one of them. I still have to scotchbrite and paint them.

Slick. I like the table height adjustability feature. Thanks for showing that detail.

[wasatch]

I'm trying to make a mount that will allow the table to tilt but not require me to change the parts on the ends of the telescopic pole. Currently, I have the foot of the pole sitting in a socket made from a 1 1/2" ABS plastic pipe section and a 1" piece of hardwood, as a base inside the pipe. The pipe is secured to the table with a metal bracket and a 1/4-20 bolt/nut and washers.
The 1 1/2" pipe fits the original rubber foot as good as anything I could readily find.

Ron

[dusty]

I'm trying to make a mount that will allow the table to tilt but not require me to change the parts on the ends of the telescopic pole. Currently, I have the foot of the pole sitting in a socket made from a 1 1/2" ABS plastic pipe section and a 1" piece of hardwood, as a base inside the pipe. The pipe is secured to the table with a metal bracket and a 1/4-20 bolt/nut and washers.
The 1 1/2" pipe fits the original rubber foot as good as anything I could readily find.

Ron

Way back when I first started this project I was thinking about some sort of universal joint. A ball joint arrangement. I never came up with a solution but I haven't given up.

Here is a possible solution that is in process now.

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As soon as the glue dries the clamps go away and this phase is OVER.

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Think upside down. This would go under the OFT at the top end of the support bracket.

[claimdude]

After reading all of your information on outfeed tables, I decided to build an outfeed table for myself. I installed a Formica top (color: Steel Mesh) and a 1" strip of plastic T-moulding around the perimeter. Its made of two 1/2" thick laminations, the top MDF, the bottom plywood. I used a Incra track (Shopsmith track was way too expensive compaired). I'll make a wood fence extension jig to replace the SS miter when cutting bevel cuts. I still have to cut the miter slots and a slot for the extended riving knife. I also made the wedge device to support the OFT with the SS table tube.I still have a little painting and cleaning to complete it, but I'm close. I just have to figure out how to make the lower SS support rod to table connection better so it will swivel when the table is adjusted to 45 degrees.

Wasatch,

Very nice work! I have always backed off buying the SS version of the OFT due to having to readjust the OFT every time I move the main table. This appears to be a viable option. Does the weight of the OFT affect your main table alignment? Do you think you will (or Dusty chime in here) will be able to get the OFT where it remains in alignment with the main table even when tilted?

Also, the attachment fixture at the bottom of the main table is very ingenious. Does it hold firm?

Thanks
Jack

[dusty]

Wasatch,

Very nice work! I have always backed off buying the SS version of the OFT due to having to readjust the OFT every time I move the main table. This appears to be a viable option. Does the weight of the OFT affect your main table alignment? Do you think you will (or Dusty chime in here) will be able to get the OFT where it remains in alignment with the main table even when tilted?

Also, the attachment fixture at the bottom of the main table is very ingenious. Does it hold firm?

Thanks
Jack

You have asked two questions and fortunately both can be answered in the affirmative (in favor of an OFT that moves with the main table).

1) Does the weight of the OFT affect your main table alignment?

NO I have experienced absolutely no problems that can be attributed to the weight of the OFT. I believe mine is a bit lighter in weight than wasatch's but I doubt that he'll have any problems either.

I prefer a lighter configuration but because of my own physical limitations.

Do you think you will (or Dusty chime in here) will be able to get the OFT where it remains in alignment with the main table even when tilted?

2) YES I believe that this is a final assembly/installation issue. The location of the Main Table pivot point must be taken into consideration when locating the tie points for the support arm. If the under the table tie point on the OFT is not aligned to the pivot line there will be some unwanted movement of the OFT position.

It can definitely be resolved by careful assembly. I have not been careful enough so I have to compensate by changing the effective length of the support arm. I will resolve this with my next version.

Anyone who communication on this issue can feel free to PM me.

HINT: Work on this with the Main Table and OFT upside down on a work bench (level surface). This allows you to tilt the table legs while the work surfaces of the tables remain in proper orientation with one another.

[claimdude]

You have asked two questions and fortunately both can be answered in the affirmative (in favor of an OFT that moves with the main table).

1) Does the weight of the OFT affect your main table alignment?

NO I have experienced absolutely no problems that can be attributed to the weight of the OFT. I believe mine is a bit lighter in weight than wasatch's but I doubt that he'll have any problems either.

I prefer a lighter configuration but because of my own physical limitations.

Do you think you will (or Dusty chime in here) will be able to get the OFT where it remains in alignment with the main table even when tilted?

2) YES I believe that this is a final assembly/installation issue. The location of the Main Table pivot point must be taken into consideration when locating the tie points for the support arm. If the under the table tie point on the OFT is not aligned to the pivot line there will be some unwanted movement of the OFT position.

It can definitely be resolved by careful assembly. I have not been careful enough so I have to compensate by changing the effective length of the support arm. I will resolve this with my next version.

Anyone who communication on this issue can feel free to PM me.

HINT: Work on this with the Main Table and OFT upside down on a work bench (level surface). This allows you to tilt the table legs while the work surfaces of the tables remain in proper orientation with one another.

Thanks Dusty! Does this mean one could use your original design but do the final assembly with the two tables lined upside down on the work bench to be certain the pivot point is in alignment with the table leg (assuming that is where the OFT support leg is attached? I like your lighter weight design also due to my physical limitations. I think I may make a run at this soon.

I know I have seen your drawings on the forum. Is there a parts list as well?

Thanks again Dusty!!!

jack

[dusty]

Thanks Dusty! Does this mean one could use your original design but do the final assembly with the two tables lined upside down on the work bench to be certain the pivot point is in alignment with the table leg (assuming that is where the OFT support leg is attached? I like your lighter weight design also due to my physical limitations. I think I may make a run at this soon.

I know I have seen your drawings on the forum. Is there a parts list as well?

Thanks again Dusty!!!

jack

Yes, upside down on the bench would be a good way to approach that. Easier to see what one is doing and a lot easier on the back.

I have never done a "parts list" but I'll try to pull something together. The only issue may be in the way I procure. Most of my parts come from the "grab box".

Weight was a real issue for me. I have quit using some of my jigs simply because of weight. With the outfeed table I never used MDF because I was fearful that weight would become a balance problem. It turns out that this table produce is very stable setup. The 1/2 Baltic Birch plywood I believe is the limiting factor.

Weight does not effect alignment at all. It does require some extra effort to raise and lower the combination of tables. I often have the outfeed table and the sliding crosscut tables mounted simultaneously.

[dusty]

Thanks Dusty! Does this mean one could use your original design but do the final assembly with the two tables lined upside down on the work bench to be certain the pivot point is in alignment with the table leg (assuming that is where the OFT support leg is attached? I like your lighter weight design also due to my physical limitations. I think I may make a run at this soon.

Thanks again Dusty!!!

jack

Weight does not effect alignment at all. It does require some extra effort to raise and lower the combination of tables. I often have the outfeed table and the sliding crosscut tables mounted simultaneously.

I know I have seen your drawings on the forum. Is there a parts list as well?