motor pan and belt cover issue

judaspre1982 · Post by **judaspre1982** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:49 pm

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terrydowning · Post by **terrydowning** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:03 pm

Wow, something to consider. Unfortunately, it's those screws that are in the worst condition.

Thanks

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:12 pm

judaspre1982 wrote:Terry
You have gotten good advice.
The only thing I'll add is on the newer style headstocks there are only 2 screws holding the belt cover on vs 6 on the Greenie models. I had the same problem on one of my 1955 Greenies with the stripped screws. I re-tapped to the next size machine screw but I now only use 2 screws at 3&9 o'clock.
At first it bothered me to have holes with no screws in them but after about 5 or so maintenances I got used to the idea real quick. I don't even see the screwless holes anymore:D

Dave

How old does the machine need to be to have more than two screws.

JPG, did you miss belt cover and motor pan the screw count on your detail sheet for "What are the differences".

judaspre1982 · Post by **judaspre1982** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:19 pm

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terrydowning · Post by **terrydowning** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:22 pm

Only ever having and using my '55 I did not know they reduced the amount of screws. Something new every day...

judaspre1982 · Post by **judaspre1982** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:31 pm

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terrydowning · Post by **terrydowning** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:35 pm

judaspre1982 wrote:I actually like having the tapped holes in the headstock. Those tinnerman clips always give me fits when doing the maintenance on my 510 model.
Those clips have a tendency to get squirrely on me at the worst possible moment when replacing the belt cover.

Dave

But when the 10-32 machine screws are wobbling the idea of moving up to a 1/4" stock for the machine screw is not desirable. I need a better solution. I may just try JB Welding some nuts to the back of the holes. They really don't hold much weight. I honestly am not looking forward to speed nuts either. I guess I'll be the guinea pig here and give it a shot.

I'll start with two at 3 and 9 and see how it goes. If all goes well, I may just fill in the other holes.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:14 pm

judaspre1982 wrote:I actually like having the tapped holes in the headstock. Those tinnerman clips always give me fits when doing the maintenance on my 510 model.
Those clips have a tendency to get squirrely on me at the worst possible moment when replacing the belt cover.

Dave

Is it possible that your tinnermans are too weak to hold themselves in place? The solution may be as simple as "new tinnermans". A tinnerman should be rather difficult to move when it is installed properly.

judaspre1982 · Post by **judaspre1982** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:13 pm

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kbuzz · Post by **kbuzz** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:48 pm

I have a older SS (1956) that I inherited from my dad (he bought it when I was 6 yr old).
Note, love that machine, and use it daily.

Regarding the stripped threads on the pan and cover screws.
I had the same issue with my SS.
I ended up using "T" nuts pressed into hardwood. I molded the hardwood to match the area where each screws are located and epoxied the hardwood in place. Seems to work fine, does not change the outward look, and can be reversed if I come up with a better solution.