Bandsaw blues...

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:59 am

jtevans wrote:Tires are from a company that supposedly makes these "exclusively", found the link on Ebay. I'm attaching a copy of the ad where I bought them...

Questions?? Tech help?? Call our store 908-241-2885 or email we can make any size tires so email or call and we will list what you need.
Brand new set of 2 BLUE MAX Heavy duty urethane band saw tires to fit Shopsmith and Magna band saws.
Our Blue Max Brand Urethane Band Saw Tires are the newest and most advanced band saw tires available.
After years of testing we developed our own formula to make Blue Max urethane specifically for band saw tire use. Blue Max tires will outperform and outlast the standard conveyor belt orange urethane everybody used in the past to make band saw tires. We have formulated the Blue Max urethane to last year’s longer and the surface finish of Blue Max urethane was designed to repel even more saw dust then the orange conveyor belt urethane that was not specifically designed for use as band saw tires. Blue max tires are not affected by freezing temps for those of you who may run your band saw in an unheated garage or shed.
Blue Max band saw tires are a registered trademark of the Band Saw Tire Warehouse and only available from us.
Made in the USA. LIFETIME WARRANTY!!!
Consistent .095 thicknesses across the entire width of the tire for precise blade tracking...
Update your band saw with a set of new urethane tires. No messy glue needed.
No need to damage your wheels with a screwdriver trying to stretch them on.. We include a custom installation tool and instructions with every set so you can mount the tires without removal of the wheels from you band saw and without damaging your wheels.
Our free lifetime warranty is the best in the industry. If your set of Blue Max band saw tires ever just send them back to Band Saw Tire Warehouse for a free replacement. Regardless if you purchased them from us or one of our many distributors. We are the ONLY mfg. making Blue Max tires so no receipt or proof of purchase is needed. Include a return address and size or make and model saw they were originally made for and 2.95 return postage. Thanks for purchasing BLUE MAX tires.

I thought so! The 'seller' was on here for a while and succeeded in confusing many due to his lack of understanding the fact that the SS bandsaw is 'different'.

Do keep us informed how they work out as time progresses.

billmayo · Post by **billmayo** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:39 am

jtevans wrote:Tires are from a company that supposedly makes these "exclusively", found the link on Ebay. I'm attaching a copy of the ad where I bought them...

Questions?? Tech help?? Call our store 908-241-2885 or email we can make any size tires so email or call and we will list what you need.
Brand new set of 2 BLUE MAX Heavy duty urethane band saw tires to fit Shopsmith and Magna band saws.
Our Blue Max Brand Urethane Band Saw Tires are the newest and most advanced band saw tires available.
After years of testing we developed our own formula to make Blue Max urethane specifically for band saw tire use. Blue Max tires will outperform and outlast the standard conveyor belt orange urethane everybody used in the past to make band saw tires. We have formulated the Blue Max urethane to last year’s longer and the surface finish of Blue Max urethane was designed to repel even more saw dust then the orange conveyor belt urethane that was not specifically designed for use as band saw tires. Blue max tires are not affected by freezing temps for those of you who may run your band saw in an unheated garage or shed.
Blue Max band saw tires are a registered trademark of the Band Saw Tire Warehouse and only available from us.
Made in the USA. LIFETIME WARRANTY!!!
Consistent .095 thicknesses across the entire width of the tire for precise blade tracking...
Update your band saw with a set of new urethane tires. No messy glue needed.
No need to damage your wheels with a screwdriver trying to stretch them on.. We include a custom installation tool and instructions with every set so you can mount the tires without removal of the wheels from you band saw and without damaging your wheels.
Our free lifetime warranty is the best in the industry. If your set of Blue Max band saw tires ever just send them back to Band Saw Tire Warehouse for a free replacement. Regardless if you purchased them from us or one of our many distributors. We are the ONLY mfg. making Blue Max tires so no receipt or proof of purchase is needed. Include a return address and size or make and model saw they were originally made for and 2.95 return postage. Thanks for purchasing BLUE MAX tires.

I buy a lot of items from Gary who operates this Ebay store. I have been quite happy with all their products and have brought a set of the BLUE MAX bandsaw tires that I want to play with. I use his belts, the control sheave bearing and button, idler shaft and other Shopsmith parts in my headstock rebuilding with no problems. I find that Gary is willing to discuss any idea or solution for a Shopsmith problem and has offered new products to meet my needs. An outstanding individual to deal with.

billmayo · Post by **billmayo** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:05 am

algale wrote:Yes, removing the old tires is a job that I did not enjoy, particularly getting all the little scraps of rubber and glue off. In the end I put a flap sander on the quill, took the wheels off and flap sanded off the glue/rubber bits. As bad as that job was, getting the new orange silicone tires on was a frustrating struggle too. But once the job was done, I too found the blade tracking better in the auto track bearing groove.

I did not see any reference to using the two auto track bearings in the upper and lower blade guides. I have been doing this change for years. I have been using a thin shim between the bearings that do not let the blade between the bearings but helps keep it tracking between the bearings a little better. I lightly hone the back edges of the blade to help this tracking between the 2 bearings. I am using the bolt from the auto track bearing to hold the bearings for the guides. Sometimes I have to file the guide housing or use a very thin shim to get the inner bearing to clear the housing. I find each bandsaw may require some minor adjustment. For customers doing a lot of sharp curves with small blades, you can only use the two bearings in the upper guide. To me this provides a very similar function as the Carter Stabilizer at $79.50 for a lot less money.

skou · Post by **skou** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:44 am

"...Blue Max urethane to last year’s longer..."

"Year's? Years, perhaps?

"If your set of Blue Max band saw tires ever just send them back to Band Saw Tire Warehouse..."

Ever what?

He may have good tires, but he CERTAINLY needs a proofreader.

Sorry to be picky, didn't get any sleep last night.

steve

joshh · Post by **joshh** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:50 am

I bought the button bearing and clip he sells. Seems very good quality and fit perfectly.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:58 pm

joshh wrote:I bought the button bearing and clip he sells. Seems very good quality and fit perfectly.

I have had conversations(e-mail) with him regarding a Mark VII poly-v belt(it is wider - 4 more ribs) and agree he is congenial. He did not understand the uniqueness of the SS bandsaw when he posted here. Other than that, I like what he sells.

jtevans · Post by **jtevans** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:04 pm

billmayo wrote:I did not see any reference to using the two auto track bearings in the upper and lower blade guides. I have been doing this change for years. I have been using a thin shim between the bearings that do not let the blade between the bearings but helps keep it tracking between the bearings a little better. I lightly hone the back edges of the blade to help this tracking between the 2 bearings. I am using the bolt from the auto track bearing to hold the bearings for the guides. Sometimes I have to file the guide housing or use a very thin shim to get the inner bearing to clear the housing. I find each bandsaw may require some minor adjustment. For customers doing a lot of sharp curves with small blades, you can only use the two bearings in the upper guide. To me this provides a very similar function as the Carter Stabilizer at $79.50 for a lot less money.

Thanks for that "tip" about the shim and the bearings, I wondered about that very thing when I was mounting and readjusting the bearings. As much as I'd hate to take that thing apart again, I feel it would be a necessary benefit to the tracking of that bearing...Thanks again.,

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:29 am

jtevans wrote:Thanks for that "tip" about the shim and the bearings, I wondered about that very thing when I was mounting and readjusting the bearings. As much as I'd hate to take that thing apart again, I feel it would be a necessary benefit to the tracking of that bearing...Thanks again.,

I believe Bill was referring to a shim between a bearing pair at the upper and lower guide/tracking bearings.

It is unclear to me if he adds a shim between the rear tracking bearings. I do not think so, but it would not hurt if thin enough.

If the rear tracking bearings are properly aligned to a straight line tangent to the rear of both wheels and 'square' to that line, a shim is not necessary since there is no force trying to push the blade out of the groove between the bearing pair.