Wall o' SPT's

[dgale]

In my experience the 10E/10ER with direct drive is significantly quieter than a Mark V. Even with the speed changer in place, I find my 10ER significantly quieter than my non PowerPro Mark V headstocks. Additionally, the speed changer offers a wider speed range than the non PowerPro Mark V.

Sounds like I need to take a better look at the state of the bearings in my motor and/or headstock - that thing rumbles pretty loud when I use it.

[tomsalwasser]

One other crazy thought from looking at your wall mounted 10E. Has anyone created a 'Murphy Shopsmith".....wall mounted with the top of headstock toward the wall instead.

Not sure what you mean Steve...of course no picture is available but a drawing maybe? Are you thinking like a Murphy bed?

[apexsunguitars]

or like an in wall ironing board? when you are done then you just fold up one leg and fold it away lol

[JPG]

Not sure what you mean Steve...of course no picture is available but a drawing maybe? Are you thinking like a Murphy bed?

I think he means raises up into the wall like a murphy bed and lowers out to 'normal' position.

Interesting idea! Lose the vertical drill press function though.

P.S. 'double tilt' would get it back!

[skou]

Not sure what you mean Steve...of course no picture is available but a drawing maybe? Are you thinking like a Murphy bed?

I "think" I know what Steve is talking about. Mount the ER just like in the first post, except the headstock and carriage would be mounted backwards. The motor would be sticking out, and you'd be looking at the bottom of the carriage.

Tilt it down, and have a short base for the tiebar to mount on, and fold it up, when you don't need it.

You'd lose all the flexibility of being able to move the ER, but you wouldn't even consider, unless you had more Shopsmiths.

steve

[skou]

As far as the lathe goes, the concensus seems to be that the 10E being solid cast iron and hence much heavier makes a better lathe...less dancing around with large and/or out of balance items. I'm not sure if there is a specific advantage to the 10E over the MV as a drill press - for me I was able to get that 10E for $100 and it's simple to mount to the wall. I can't really see how you could easily mount a MV to the wall. On the negative side, the 10E is noisier and more work to change speeds than a MV...I do have a speed changer for it, which I need to install and this will make speed changing easier...all in all it was a cheap and simple way to have a dedicated drill press that is much more solid and reliable than most newer options out there, as well as taking up less shop space since I was able to mount it on the wall. Of course mounting on the wall loses the portability of a SS, but I suppose if I run across a drill press need that requires me to be able to move a machine around, I can still use either of my MV's in drill press mode as well.

I can't see that the ER is any better as a drill-press, than a MkV. But then, I've never played with anything except ERs.

My last ER purchase was $60.00. Find ANY other drill-press with the capacity of my ER, for that much. Or, the durability.

Oh, like I said, I don't have any experience with anything but an ER, but in my opinion, they are NOT that loud, unless there are bearing issues.

steve

[oldiron]

The wall mount is pretty cool. I've always wondered how it would work.

As for a 10E or ER being loud, Bearings, Bearings, Bearings... Both of my ER's are very quite when running.

So quite, All you hear is a slight hum....... Like I read in a post several years back, It's amazing just how quite a 10E or ER is with good bearings!!!!!!!

As others know, You also need to keep a little grease packed in the spindle to drive sleeve spline. Some folks are confusing bearing noise for spindle chatter...

[oldiron]

I forgot to ask in my last post, With the wall mounted ER, Is the headrest bracket the only thing keeping the unit from wanting to swing downwards on its swivel base?

[JPG]

I forgot to ask in my last post, With the wall mounted ER, Is the headrest bracket the only thing keeping the unit from wanting to swing downwards on its swivel base?

Good question! IIWM, I would provide a more positive restraint.

[jsburger]

I forgot to ask in my last post, With the wall mounted ER, Is the headrest bracket the only thing keeping the unit from wanting to swing downwards on its swivel base?

Good question! IIWM, I would provide a more positive restraint.

I totally agree. I would put the cast 10ER tube bracket below the headrest (inside) and make a wood cross bar with a projection between the tubes for the original knob to screw into the head rest. The original knob length might be a problem but a bolt of the correct length could be used.