Introduction and Question on SS Mark V-B Machine

Fred Grover · Post by **Fred Grover** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:01 am

Hello everyone my name is Fred and I just recently purchased a used SS Mark V-B Stock. My question is about a few things.

1. In the manual for the Quill Feed and video I seen there is supposed to be an Allen Screw to loosen to take the Quill Out and on mine it appears to be sheared off or something. I can take pictures of it if someone can tell me how to upload them. I was wondering what the screw size was and if it can be drilled out and re-tapped and replaced ? I have experience doing this myself.

2. The other question is on the Quill Feed Stop Indicator and the Lever to move the Quill back and forth. Mine will move all the way out with the lever but it does not snap back and the Quill Stop Indicator is not lined up on the 0 - 4 Scale that is on the dial. How does one go about adjusting that properly or fix it?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am looking forward to getting started but would like to lubricate and clean it up a little bit. I have the Lathe Duplicator that is still in the box and never been used and was wondering if there are any free videos showing how to set that up and use it too.

Thanks for any help and I am in Iowa if there are any users close to the Southeast Iowa area let me know.

Fred Grover.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:44 am

The good news is that the set screw on top of the headstock "is not" broken off. It is covered over with a putty like material. All you have to do is carefully dig that putty out and you will find a set screw.

The fact that the quill does not snap back is an indication to me that the quill needs to be cleaned and waxed.

You might want to watch this Sawdust Session before you do that.

In fact there are a bunch of "free video" that you probably want to watch.

Fred Grover · Post by **Fred Grover** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:13 am

Thanks Dusty. I have started watching quite a few of these videos. I truly appreciate your input.

I can say I have tried scraping the top of what they call putty. The thing I see is that is is silver with a very tiny hole in it and it is right flush with the top of the head. Is that silver the color of the putty as it seems awful hard to remove as I tried scraping it and digging it out. Just curious. I can post a picture later today if needed and it will help. Let me know.

Also my Quill Feed Indicator has a gap on it and is not flush to the side of the Head. The Indicator dial does not line up with the notch I see for it. I can also take a picture of that too later today and upload them to just make sure and double check.

Thanks again Dusty and I appreciate your feedback and help.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:52 am

I see in another post that you have mastered the art of woodshop photography so yes, a photo off your headstock showing the set screw might help.

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BTW: You can see the location of a second similar set screw in this picture (down and to the left). It is also associated with the quill and may be similarly covered with putty.

This photo shows why I dislike working with MDF. It also shows why one should not work without using the dust collector.

algale · Post by **algale** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:30 am

dusty wrote:I see in another post that you have mastered the art of woodshop photography so yes, a photo off your headstock showing the set screw might help.

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BTW: You can see the location of a second similar set screw in this picture (down and to the left). It is also associated with the quill and may be similarly covered with putty.

This photo shows why I dislike working with MDF. It also shows why one should not work without using the dust collector.

Dusty, off topic here, but do you mind explaining what the white ring with the red index markings on the quill is?
Al

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:38 am

algale wrote:Dusty, off topic here, but do you mind explaining what the white ring with the red index markings on the quill is?
Al

I don't mind explaining but you'll have to be patient with me while I attempt to remember why I put that in.

Without remembering why, what it does is limit how far the quill retracts while at the same time changes the relative position of the lower saw guard and riving knife.

This is getting really bad:(! I don't remember why I did that.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:41 pm

On the 'back' side of the quill feed shaft is the quill 'stop' stuff. It allows one to control the maximum distance the quill is extended from the headstock. This allows depth control when drilling etc.

In addition to the handle(if it is on that side) are a wing nut and a collar with red(might be black) markings containing the numbers from 0 to 4 and tick marks representing fractional inches.

With the wing nut(labeled quill stop of all things;)) loosened the collar is free to rotate, but with a stop.

By extending the quill to the desired 'depth', rotating the collar until the 0 lines with the index mark(this also should be the 'stop' so ya do not need to 'look', just rotate CCW until the collar hits the stop), tighten the wing nut, then 'raise' the quill.

When retracted 'up' the collar will indicate the depth the quill will extend prior to reaching the stop.

When 'tightened', the collar indicates the distance remaining to the stop.

When loose it means nothing.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:43 pm

Ohhh!:eek: That one!

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Fred Grover · Post by **Fred Grover** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:03 pm

Alright Dusty. Here is a picture of what mine looks like. Shopsmith information said to dig it out but I used a sharp pin point punch and it does not get me to where I can put the Allen Wrench in. This is why I asked if I might have to drill and tap this out and wanted to know the Allen Scree Size for it. Unless you have anymore suggestions for me. I also added some text annotation on it to ask about the other problem which you will see. Thanks for any help and I appreciate it very much.

Fred Grover · Post by **Fred Grover** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:08 pm

Here is a picture of what mine looks like. Shopsmith information said to dig it out but I used a sharp pin point punch and it does not get me to where I can put the Allen Wrench in. This is why I asked if I might have to drill and tap this out and wanted to know the Allen Scree Size for it. Unless you have anymore suggestions for me. I also added some text annotation on it to ask about the other problem which you will see. Thanks for any help and I appreciate it very much.

Update: For the second question I got it solved. I feel dumb now as I forgot to just loosen the set screw on the Arbor.

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Thanks for any help.

Fred.

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