Belt sander assessment
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Belt sander assessment
Today I purchased a used belt sander to add to the collection. On the way back I purchased a new ceramic Shopsmith 6x48 belt at Lowes. When I got home I dusted everything off which of course led to an exploratory cleanup/teardown. I'm curious like that.
This video to be particularly helpful in the endeavor...
Shopsmith Academy - SS112 Belt Sander Tuneup
My newly-acquired sander is a 1983 model mounted on top of a non-mobile plywood cabinet. I'm not keen on the cabinet, but for now I'll leave it alone. It houses a 1/2 horsepower 1750 RPM Dayton motor and power switch. The drive pulley is set 1-to-1 which puts this safely within the recommended 1,150 to 1,900 rpm operating range.
At one point in the video, Nick points out a sticky idler drum. This one had the same problem and it was fixed the same way. I used acetone instead of mineral spirits to dissolve the gunk on the spring and shaft.
Both drive drum bearings will need replacement. For now I doused them in Ultra Lube after which bearing noise and mobility improved dramatically. It took awhile to pick out the strands of belt that had tightly wrapped up on both sides. I suspect that material may have contributed to bearing failure...
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When I put the parts back together I had some trouble getting the belt tension right, but this PDF file provided the solution.
My son and I enjoyed testing it out. It could use the dust retro-fit upgrade but we're looking forward to putting this back in service just as it is.
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Hope this little story helps someone else in the future.
-Dave
This video to be particularly helpful in the endeavor...
Shopsmith Academy - SS112 Belt Sander Tuneup
My newly-acquired sander is a 1983 model mounted on top of a non-mobile plywood cabinet. I'm not keen on the cabinet, but for now I'll leave it alone. It houses a 1/2 horsepower 1750 RPM Dayton motor and power switch. The drive pulley is set 1-to-1 which puts this safely within the recommended 1,150 to 1,900 rpm operating range.
At one point in the video, Nick points out a sticky idler drum. This one had the same problem and it was fixed the same way. I used acetone instead of mineral spirits to dissolve the gunk on the spring and shaft.
Both drive drum bearings will need replacement. For now I doused them in Ultra Lube after which bearing noise and mobility improved dramatically. It took awhile to pick out the strands of belt that had tightly wrapped up on both sides. I suspect that material may have contributed to bearing failure...
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When I put the parts back together I had some trouble getting the belt tension right, but this PDF file provided the solution.
My son and I enjoyed testing it out. It could use the dust retro-fit upgrade but we're looking forward to putting this back in service just as it is.
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Hope this little story helps someone else in the future.
-Dave
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With that much 'string' around the gearing, the belt was likely rubbing against the wear clips on that side. Do check that out and replace them if needed.
The clips are actually tinnerman clips.
The clips are actually tinnerman clips.
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Thanks for that PDF file, bought a clone but need any info on maintenance/adjusting since no manual came with it.
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
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Are you crowning the new belt?dusty wrote:I have yet to feel like I mastered the Belt Sander Tension Adjust. I seem to get it done but it is never easy and every time I change belts it is the same. Once adjusted, the belt sander is great I don't think I could do without it.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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I don't know what you consider "newer" but mine, which dates back to the late 80s, has brass bushings.ldh wrote:Do the newer Shopsmith belt sanders have sealed ball bearings on the idler drum or do they still use the brass bushings?
ldh
I just looked at the parts diagram, looking for bushing part numbers. I was disappointed to see that most of the parts in the Idler Drum Assembly are not replaceable (not part numbered). I suspect that if you called Shopsmith you would find that you have to purchase the entire Idler Drum Assembly.
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The Tension Knob Assembly and the Drive Drum Assembly also appear to be that way.
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Drive drum assembly does include ball bearings.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange