Thoughts on Mark V Machines

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dgreen810 wrote:I agree with your comments with respect to abnormal wear. However this is a one owner machine and supposedly lightly used. Maybe you misunderstood my attempt to describe the comparison.

The newer machine is the one that appears to be well worn. you can give the head stock a push and it will almost go to the other end of the way tubes, the carriage likewise. This is not a bad thing, it's just that you can't seem to lock everything down good and snug after adjustments are made.

I don't have a clue what the problem is with the casters yet. Do to medical issue can't get down to remove one for inspection. I really like the setup if it wasn't for the sloppy way they operate. 4"urethane wheels. The machine really moves around smooth as glass.

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Do you have two elevated positions that lift the legs off of the floor? Do you also have a "park position" where the legs rest firmly on the floor? If you answer these two questions affirmatively, then the holes are not improperly located as has been suggested.

Can you be specific as to what is sloppy? Is it the lever mechanism on its shaft that is sloppy?
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Just did some measuring. The first position raises the SS 3/16" off the floor, the second position raises it 1/2" off the floor, the third drops the SS solidly on the floor, however the jolt of the SS hitting the floor makes the foot lever rotate upwards and hides behind the SS leg. You can feel around with your toe and locate it maybe or get on your knees and move it with your hand to where it can be operated with you foot again. Bummer!

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dgreen810 wrote:Just did some measuring. The first position raises the SS 3/16" off the floor, the second position raises it 1/2" off the floor, the third drops the SS solidly on the floor, however the jolt of the SS hitting the floor makes the foot lever rotate upwards and hides behind the SS leg. You can feel around with your toe and locate it maybe or get on your knees and move it with your hand to where it can be operated with you foot again. Bummer!

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Those measurements confirm the assembly is positioned on the leg correctly.

That means the second pix shows the foot pedal correctly on the camshaft.

When 'on the floor', the only thing positioning the cams and thus the footpedal is the spring on each cam. The spring should exert sufficient force to prevent the 'floppy'/hiding of the foot pedal.

What is the od of the caster wheels. If 'too' small the weight would diminish the effective spring force. The size only matters in the lowered position assuming correct positioning in the two raised positions.


P.S. Pix showing the cam and piston and foot pedal in all three positions might help. The two extremes of floppy as well.
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The wheels measure 4 1/4" O.D. Made of urethane as near as I can tell.

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dgreen810 wrote:JPG

The wheels measure 4 1/4" O.D. Made of urethane as near as I can tell.

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They do not appear to be that large in your pix????

I am having second thoughts re small od anyway. Stem length may be a factor.
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James

I got a little "Sloppy", I just love that word, they measure 4 1/16"

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JPG

I think our replies crossed. Anyway, the first photo the SS is solid on the floor, the second photo the SS is at 3/16" off the floor, the last the SS is at 1/2" off the floor.

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JPG

Let me know if you want me to re-take pic # 2

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dgreen810 wrote:JPG

I think our replies crossed. Anyway, the first photo the SS is solid on the floor, the second photo the SS is at 3/16" off the floor, the last the SS is at 1/2" off the floor.

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You only posted 2 pix?????

The second(posted) is good as it clearly shows the cam in the half raised position on the cam and the position of the foot pedal.

Of particular interest at this point is the 'down' position including the floppy positions.

Yes it slams when lowered to the floor. The springs should press the cams into the low dwell of the cam thereby positioning the footpedal correctly.

I will take another look at the first pix posted, but I do not think it reveals the piston/cam/footpedal well.
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I guess my question is either unimportant or off track.

We know that it raises and lowers the Shopsmith like it should. The remaining complaint was that it was sloppy. What is it that is sloppy? Does sloppy mean that something is loose or is it your way of saying that you don't particularly like the way the lift mechanism works.

One last question. Are the lift cams all tight on the rods? They are secured with set screws that do work loose.
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