Ripping Purple Heart on Shopsmith
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nhelsinger
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Ripping Purple Heart on Shopsmith
Good Afternoon friends!
I am struggling ripping 8/4 purple heart and 8/4 hard rock maple on my shopsmith. The blade even quit moving on my once. I purchased a new blade that I am going go try tonight, but what are some other options to ensure a better, smoother cut. Speed increase/decrease?
I appreciate any and all suggestions!
Thanks all and Happy Monday!
I am struggling ripping 8/4 purple heart and 8/4 hard rock maple on my shopsmith. The blade even quit moving on my once. I purchased a new blade that I am going go try tonight, but what are some other options to ensure a better, smoother cut. Speed increase/decrease?
I appreciate any and all suggestions!
Thanks all and Happy Monday!
- rjent
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Re: Ripping Purple Heart on Shopsmith
I am far from an expert, but slow down the speed. The way the variable sheave system on a Mark V works is like a transmission and slower means a mechanical advantage to the motor. Remember to feed the wood slower ...nhelsinger wrote:Good Afternoon friends!
I am struggling ripping 8/4 purple heart and 8/4 hard rock maple on my shopsmith. The blade even quit moving on my once. I purchased a new blade that I am going go try tonight, but what are some other options to ensure a better, smoother cut. Speed increase/decrease?
I appreciate any and all suggestions!
Thanks all and Happy Monday!
JMHO
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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nhelsinger
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Re: Ripping Purple Heart on Shopsmith
Thank you for your response, I will give that a try, I was speeding up, very well could be my problem....along with an old blade. I typically run a 10inch blade, anyone see a problem with that blade size?
Re: Ripping Purple Heart on Shopsmith
Check your alignment (rip fence to blade). If alignment is proper, slow the blade a few letters below saw speed which will give you more torque.
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- BuckeyeDennis
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Re: Ripping Purple Heart on Shopsmith
+1 on rjent's analysis/advice. Blade diameter can be compensated for with the variable speed. But if the blade is old, it may also be dull.nhelsinger wrote:Thank you for your response, I will give that a try, I was speeding up, very well could be my problem....along with an old blade. I typically run a 10inch blade, anyone see a problem with that blade size?
Everything else being equal, a thin-kerf blade requires proportionally less power than a standard blade. 3/32:1/8 = 3:4.
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Re: Ripping Purple Heart on Shopsmith
If you think ripping purple heart is tough, wait to you cross cut it. Watch for splintering!
Re: Ripping Purple Heart on Shopsmith
Although I don't know a thing about purple heart, I copied this from "The Wood Database". Seems to affirm the above recommendations.
"Workability: Working with Purpleheart can present some unique challenges: if the wood is heated with dull tools, or if cutter speeds are too high, Purpleheart will exude a gummy resin that can clog tools and complicate the machining process. Depending on the grain orientation, can be difficult to plane without tearout. Purpleheart also has a moderate dulling effect on cutters."
"Workability: Working with Purpleheart can present some unique challenges: if the wood is heated with dull tools, or if cutter speeds are too high, Purpleheart will exude a gummy resin that can clog tools and complicate the machining process. Depending on the grain orientation, can be difficult to plane without tearout. Purpleheart also has a moderate dulling effect on cutters."
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Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Re: Ripping Purple Heart on Shopsmith
I have not cut purple heart but, I have cut 8/4 hard maple with no problem. I agree with what everyone else has said. A good sharp blade goes without saying. I use a carbide Forrest Woodworker II. Also slowing down the speed for more torque helps. I go down to the low end of the saw range or slightly below. Speed is not a problem with the Power Pro. Last is the feed rate. It must be slower. My guess is you will see a big difference with a new blade unless you have a fence alignment issue.
I have cut 8/4 hard maple on my 3 HP Powermatic PM2000 with the same Forrest blade and to be honest the extra 2 HP does not make much difference. The feed rate on both machines is about the same.
I have cut 8/4 hard maple on my 3 HP Powermatic PM2000 with the same Forrest blade and to be honest the extra 2 HP does not make much difference. The feed rate on both machines is about the same.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Re: Ripping Purple Heart on Shopsmith
You might want to clean your blade before continuing. Woods high in oil can make a new sharp blade quickly react as if it was old and dull.
Cocobolo is notorious for being high in oil (even higher than purpleheart). I generally cut it on the bandsaw if plausible where I can slow the blade speed and easily clean the blade after a few cuts. If your only choice is the table saw, then the motto slow speed slow feed is appropriate.
Be well,
Ben
Cocobolo is notorious for being high in oil (even higher than purpleheart). I generally cut it on the bandsaw if plausible where I can slow the blade speed and easily clean the blade after a few cuts. If your only choice is the table saw, then the motto slow speed slow feed is appropriate.
Be well,
Ben
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nhelsinger
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Re: Ripping Purple Heart on Shopsmith
Thank you all for your feedback! The new blade, I purchased a Diablo for a quick fix, and slowing down the speed did wonders! Cut through like butter! I am in a crunch for time finishing up a wedding gift. Any good reviews on this blade over a forrester?
Also, any suggestions on how to maintain your saw blade. Can you resharpen?
Also, any suggestions on how to maintain your saw blade. Can you resharpen?