Dust Collection

Moderator: admin

User avatar
tomsalwasser
Platinum Member
Posts: 928
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:09 pm

Dust Collection

Post by tomsalwasser »

Greetings sawdust makers,

I use a Jet dust collector with a canister filter and plastic bag for holding the dust. The bags are a major pain to empty and the canister is hard to clean too. A while back I added an Oneida Super Dust Deputy to separate the dust before it enters the collector. Now, amazingly, absolutely nothing enters the plastic bag on the Jet, it all goes into the Oneida drum, which is really easy to empty. One problem solved.

The canister on the Jet doesn't get very dirty but it still needs to be cleaned from time to time, a tedious, filthy and unpleasant job. I can't help but think a cloth bag would be easier to clean than the canister. You could shake it down, or even wash it somehow. Anybody every ditched their canister and put a good bag on instead? Thanks for your thoughts.

Tom
User avatar
ChrisNeilan
Platinum Member
Posts: 1463
Joined: Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:30 pm
Location: Waterford, Connecticut
Contact:

Re: Dust Collection

Post by ChrisNeilan »

Your canister filter is probably catching the ultra fine dust that gets by the dust deputy. Typically the canister filters can catch that dust where most cloth bags can only dream of being that good! There are some newer bags that are an improvement over the older ones, but none that give the airflow of a canister. Think surface area....
User avatar
jsburger
Platinum Member
Posts: 6585
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:06 pm
Location: Hooper, UT

Re: Dust Collection

Post by jsburger »

I totally agree with Chris. Canisters are usually 1 micron. Bags are typically 30 micron although they do make them finer. As Chris says it is all about air flow and the canister is far superior to a bag in that respect. Does your canister not have the paddles inside to clean it without removing it? If not it is worth buying one that does.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
User avatar
Bruce
Platinum Member
Posts: 884
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:31 pm
Location: Central MO

Re: Dust Collection

Post by Bruce »

The bag on my Grizzly is rated at 2.5 micron.
User avatar
S Brian
Gold Member
Posts: 163
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:52 pm
Location: South Bend, In

Re: Dust Collection

Post by S Brian »

I thought all canister dust collectors came with a crank, which is attached to an internal paddle. My 1 HP Penn State has a 1 micron canister, with a crank. After a few uses, I turn the crank a few times and and the paddle knocks 90% of the fine dust into the bag.
Brian
Mark V-500 Purchased New In 1980, SS Bandsaw (free), SS Jointer, SS 6x48 Belt Sander (free), SS Storage Station (free), Powermatic 64A Table Saw, Powermatic 1140F Drill Press, Delta 46-460 Midi-Lathe, Delta Scrollsaw, Bosch 12" Dual Compound Miter Saw, MLCS Router Table w/Bosch Router, Penn State dust collector.
User avatar
jsburger
Platinum Member
Posts: 6585
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:06 pm
Location: Hooper, UT

Re: Dust Collection

Post by jsburger »

S Brian wrote:I thought all canister dust collectors came with a crank, which is attached to an internal paddle. My 1 HP Penn State has a 1 micron canister, with a crank. After a few uses, I turn the crank a few times and and the paddle knocks 90% of the fine dust into the bag.
I also thought that was true for the smaller DC's. My Clearvue Cyclone doesn't have one but that is different.
Attachments
DSCF0657_Small.jpg
DSCF0657_Small.jpg (287.18 KiB) Viewed 4450 times
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
ddub

Re: Dust Collection

Post by ddub »

That is a snazzy looking setup jsburger.

I also plan on adding the dust deputy when I set my dust collector up.
User avatar
jsburger
Platinum Member
Posts: 6585
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:06 pm
Location: Hooper, UT

Re: Dust Collection

Post by jsburger »

ddub wrote:That is a snazzy looking setup jsburger.

I also plan on adding the dust deputy when I set my dust collector up.
Thank you. The picture was taken a few years ago when I first installed it. It is still not plumbed in. :o It is designed for an 8" main line and 6" branches and then 4" lines to the machines. Almost 2000 CFM. It works so well as is the plumbing has not been a priority. It is time to get with it however.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
User avatar
tomsalwasser
Platinum Member
Posts: 928
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:09 pm

Re: Dust Collection

Post by tomsalwasser »

S Brian wrote:I thought all canister dust collectors came with a crank, which is attached to an internal paddle. My 1 HP Penn State has a 1 micron canister, with a crank. After a few uses, I turn the crank a few times and and the paddle knocks 90% of the fine dust into the bag.
Yes, it has a crank which works well but eventually that 10% builds up and fills nooks and crannies, of which there are many. I try to clean it out every few months using various techniques, like the vacuum at the car wash, or blowing with my compressor from the outside then tapping the canister on the floor gently a few times, etc.

It would seem Bruce's 2.5 micron bag would be pretty easy to keep clean in comparison. The performance of the Jet with the Super Dust Deputy is pretty amazing. Probably not as amazing as John's but like I said earlier, all the dust goes into the drum now, my bag never needs to be emptied.
User avatar
tomsalwasser
Platinum Member
Posts: 928
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:09 pm

Re: Dust Collection

Post by tomsalwasser »

As long as we're on the subject of dust collection, I came across this interesting video. It might save me from hyperventilating when using the drill dress.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=69&v=W6wPp91xiL0[/youtube]
Post Reply