Pace Makers in the Shop
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- dusty
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Pace Makers in the Shop
If any of you are wearing pace makers and have experienced any problem, as a result of this, while working in your shop - please let me know.
As of mid-day tomorrow, I will be using a pace maker.
As of mid-day tomorrow, I will be using a pace maker.
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No experience and hoping all goes well; but as long as you are doing this, make sure to ask your doctor to tell your wife that it is essential that you switch over to a DVR motor to avoid electrical interference issues....
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In a normal household, that might work. My wife, however, is far too skeptical of anything I say. She would twist that around on me and make me get rid of my routers, electric drills, circular saws, etc.algale wrote:No experience and hoping all goes well; but as long as you are doing this, make sure to ask your doctor to tell your wife that it is essential that you switch over to a DVR motor to avoid electrical interference issues....
For now and until this whole thing settles I'll just use my old faithful Mark V.
I just finished printing out a pamphlet of instructions and warnings. Looks like good information. It seems to indicate that as long as I keep the interfering device at least 3" away from the pacemaker there will be no problem. I'll just promise to never hug the Mark V while using it.
Reading through this document quickly, it appears that my cell phone is the most likely appliance I use that could cause interference.
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Re: Pace Makers in the Shop
I suspect you are right. Cell phones by design broadcast a lot of RF. RF is what would interfere with a pace maker.
Electric motors generate a small amount of RF as leakage, but AC motors are as a rule much cleaner than DC motors in this situation. Newer digital controlled motors are likely worse than older non-digital motors as electronics is the main source of stray RF.
Also, see if the instructions list fluorescent lights. Older ones ran at 60hz which is far below RF frequencies, and that is why we saw flicker. However, newer ones with solid state ballasts operate at RF frequencies today, and could be another source of interference.
Electric motors generate a small amount of RF as leakage, but AC motors are as a rule much cleaner than DC motors in this situation. Newer digital controlled motors are likely worse than older non-digital motors as electronics is the main source of stray RF.
Also, see if the instructions list fluorescent lights. Older ones ran at 60hz which is far below RF frequencies, and that is why we saw flicker. However, newer ones with solid state ballasts operate at RF frequencies today, and could be another source of interference.
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Re: Pace Makers in the Shop
If you get the right interference it will put some zip in your step! 
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My 'instruction' "prohibit" use of chainsaws. Not a word re weedeaters.
Also no arc welding!
Mentions cell phone in pocket.
But then mine is only for bradycardia.
Also no arc welding!
Mentions cell phone in pocket.
But then mine is only for bradycardia.
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Re: Pace Makers in the Shop
One thing strong magnets will turn them off. My daughter a hospice nurse must carry a magnet to turn off pace makers when her client dies. Some client have pace makers with resuscitator in them. When they died the thing keeps giving the body a shot every few minutes, loved ones often mistake this for the patient trying to wake up.
Re: Pace Makers in the Shop
Gods speed with your procedure tomorrow Dusty. Also that it makes life better for you.dusty wrote:As of mid-day tomorrow, I will be using a pace maker.
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Little late here Dusty, I have no advice here. Don't know a thing about them other that what has been said.
You will be in my prayers. Ask your doctor about the pacemaker and the shopsmiths. He should be able to steer you to the right info.
Let us know how things work out!
You will be in my prayers. Ask your doctor about the pacemaker and the shopsmiths. He should be able to steer you to the right info.
Let us know how things work out!
Dick
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1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
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1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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rjent wrote:Little late here Dusty, I have no advice here. Don't know a thing about them other that what has been said.
You will be in my prayers. Ask your doctor about the pacemaker and the shopsmiths. He should be able to steer you to the right info.
Let us know how things work out!
If he tells you to get rid of the SS, get rid of the doctor!
God speed and good luck tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!
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