Local SS stray needing care

[pieceseeker]

Picked this Mark V 500 up locally 2 weekends ago for $50. Just couldn't see it going to waste. Owner claims he bought it new around 12/93 and gave it to his father who didn't use it much. As you can see it has been neglected.

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Motor runs but quill doesn't turn, belt gone with some shredded remains, motor belt is there but unattached. Luckily, the speed control is OK, the quill is frozen as is the sheaves. The drill chuck is really rusted on.

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The serial numbers sequence is dated around April 1983. Which brings up an interesting question. When was the last year a Mark V 500 could have been purchased?

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Have the headstock all disassembled (with a lot of BP Blaster help) excluding the quill(still frozen) and the parts are currently enjoying a nice EvapoRust bath.

[reubenjames]

$50 for a motor isn't the worst deal...

I'd be curious is the motor didn't get exposed to / affected by whatever moisture everything else was clearly dealing with. Obviously you can rebuild these things from *any* state, but whether enough is salvageable to be *worth* it or not is another story. I'd bet you could keep eyes peeled for a good body with bad motor and Frankenstein those bad boys together.

[ChrisNeilan]

That actually does not look bad at all. Between evaporust (a truly great product) some scotch brite and a few relatively inexpensive parts and it will be as good as new. Did it come with the rest of the parts? Tables, fence and such?

[oldiron]

This is a prime example of why the machine needs to be checked over "Before" plugging it in!!!

2 years ago, I was fortunate enough to be givin the same but with a band-saw along with manuals, discs, everything the machine originally came with.

However, The tubes on mine look a little worse than yours yet the quill, chuck and associated parts were all free and spin.

I took the motor cover off and checked everything before plugging the machine in. Same with the band-saw, I took the cover off and checked everything.

You did fine with the price!!! Once you get everything freed up and worn parts replaced, You will be in good shape. Heck, You can simply convert this one to a shortie if desired...

Give your rust treatment time to do its job and take care with the disassembly...

As most would probably agree, Thank you for rescuing a fine machine!!!!!

Mike

[pieceseeker]

Hi all! Finally got the quill out of the headstock, soaked it for a week in PB Blaster and Evaporust. Had to take the headstock to work and use a little friendly persuasion with brass punch and hammer. It was really stuck in there.


Obviously, the Evaporust takes all the black rust coating off the quill. Since this older SS quill is single bearing anyway, I'll be ordering the newer quill for it.


This SS came with all the usual stuff, main and extension table, lathe tale fixture with dead center, lathe tools, drill chuck, upper and lower saw guards and a few rusty blades. No fence, push tools, sanding disc, or any SPT's.

The motor works great, no worse for the wear. Have already taken the motor apart down to the bearings, which I'm replacing. Evaporust the 2 end caps, motor pan and related hardware and it'll look like new. I like to coat bare sheet metal parts and hardware with penetrol. It's a great rust repeller.

I think I did well for $50, though it needs a lot of work.

This is my 3rd SS, so everything is just extra, even though it came with few "extras".

[ERLover]

That should be a 2 bearing quill if an 83ish SS they went 2 bearing quills with the goldies as well as a 1 1/8 HP motor, pre dating yours. Belts are about 40$ from the mother ship if that.

[ChrisNeilan]

That should be a 2 bearing quill if an 83ish SS they went 2 bearing quills with the goldies as well as a 1 1/8 HP motor, pre dating yours. Belts are about 40$ from the mother ship if that.

No, sorry... Any Shopsmith produced prior to 11-01-1984 is a single bearing quill. Check out the upgrade page on the motherships site... My 1983 is a single bearing quill. Just rebuilt it last year, or was it the year before?

[everettdavis]

Actually it was the poly v they introduced near the Goldie release as I bought a new 500 Gray in 1983 and the 2 bearing quill came out later.

$50 is still a good price. We resurected a Lazarus unit that was submerged in Katrina sludge then rusted a year out of water before we got it in a shop to work on it.

We took it upside down in a tank with the quill and drive submerged in evaporust for three weeks before we got it out.

Marvel Mystery Oil on the sheaves and they cleaned up.

Made a trough for a way tube on one side, with evaporust and a 1" PVC capped off thorough it, then did other side.

It took time but it came back. No one thought to take photos. Go figure.

This one can come back. Be patient and work the problems as they come up.

Everett

[ERLover]

You are correct Chris, my mistake 2 bearing quill came in in 1984.

[pieceseeker]

This is my 2nd 1983 SS and they both had single bearing quills.

One issue I'm comtemplating is replacing the control sheave bearing. It's small and "staked" to the sheave. Anyone here attempt it before? Mine feels pretty rough, so I really don't have much to lose. I have a HF press, so I'll be removing it this weekend. Just need to find an appropriate cutter to remove the staking. A dremel grinder/cutter should do the trick.

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Another problem appears that the "button" shaft is staked to the backside of the inner race of the bearing.

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I think that I'll have to remove bearing and button together and then cut the bearing off with a grinding/cutting wheel.

I'll try to provide clearer pictures this weekend as I progress.