MARK 7

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Hi, yes it has tail stock and live center, chuck (no key), sanding disk, and smaller drum sander with sleeves, chisels (not SS), large table(no other tables), safety stuff, 1 1/8 motor with switch and all the internal parts for the motor. Several saw blade adapters, face plate, couple lathe tool bars for turning. No caster, miter gage or fence for table saw. Power pro update runs but have not actually put it to a test. On and off and variable speeds and reverse works for sure.
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Hi, The guy I purchased it from said you can use same plug on the power pro update and plug it into 110 or 220 without changing anything. Hope he is right lol.
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woodmeister wrote:Hi, The guy I purchased it from said you can use same plug on the power pro update and plug it into 110 or 220 without changing anything. Hope he is right lol.
In theory that is true. However the electrical code says that 110 and 220 sockets are different physically so you can't plug a 110 tool into a 220 socket. Anyone that would wire 110 and 220 outlets with the same type socket is nuts.

So yes you have to change the plug on the SS to run it on 220. Not because the wiring is different but because a 110 plug will not fit in a 220 socket. Thank goodness! :eek:
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Thanks for the heads uo . I knew plug configuration is a lot different and happy he did not test it LOL. I have 220 but not sure it is worth the changing plug over. Do you think it is worth the adaptation in the long run?
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woodmeister wrote:Thanks for the heads uo . I knew plug configuration is a lot different and happy he did not test it LOL. I have 220 but not sure it is worth the changing plug over. Do you think it is worth the adaptation in the long run?
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Tom
A voice with 0 experience with the PP, but 2/1.75 = 14% more power on those very rare occasions where it is needed.

When driving the planer with the SS and wide stock, then perhaps it is worth the effort.
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JPG wrote:
woodmeister wrote:Thanks for the heads uo . I knew plug configuration is a lot different and happy he did not test it LOL. I have 220 but not sure it is worth the changing plug over. Do you think it is worth the adaptation in the long run?
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Tom
A voice with 0 experience with the PP, but 2/1.75 = 14% more power on those very rare occasions where it is needed.

When driving the planer with the SS and wide stock, then perhaps it is worth the effort.
True on the power. However, less current draw by the motor on 220 maybe = longer life. Probably not a real issue but for the sake of a $5 power plug and if you have a 220 socket why not?

I certainly would not install a 220 socket just for the SS but if I already had one...
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jsburger wrote:
JPG wrote:
woodmeister wrote:Thanks for the heads uo . I knew plug configuration is a lot different and happy he did not test it LOL. I have 220 but not sure it is worth the changing plug over. Do you think it is worth the adaptation in the long run?
Thanks,
Tom
A voice with 0 experience with the PP, but 2/1.75 = 14% more power on those very rare occasions where it is needed.

When driving the planer with the SS and wide stock, then perhaps it is worth the effort.
True on the power. However, less current draw by the motor on 220 maybe = longer life. Probably not a real issue but for the sake of a $5 power plug and if you have a 220 socket why not?

I certainly would not install a 220 socket just for the SS but if I already had one...
Ain't gonna be that way! The motor draw will always be dependent upon mechanical load. The increased voltage methinks will merely help the power supply provide that current to the motor.
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Thanks everyone I appreciate all the help and advice you so freely give!!
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JPG wrote:
jsburger wrote:
JPG wrote:
A voice with 0 experience with the PP, but 2/1.75 = 14% more power on those very rare occasions where it is needed.

When driving the planer with the SS and wide stock, then perhaps it is worth the effort.
True on the power. However, less current draw by the motor on 220 maybe = longer life. Probably not a real issue but for the sake of a $5 power plug and if you have a 220 socket why not?

I certainly would not install a 220 socket just for the SS but if I already had one...
Ain't gonna be that way! The motor draw will always be dependent upon mechanical load. The increased voltage methinks will merely help the power supply provide that current to the motor.
Huhh!!! :confused: :confused: :confused: Methinks you are incorrect. P=EI. The current is inversely proportional to the voltage for any give power.

Of course the motor will draw current based on the load but the current for a given load will be less at 220 than 110. Again P=EI, electricity 101.
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jsburger wrote:
JPG wrote:
jsburger wrote: .

///JPG = A voice with 0 experience with the PP, but 2/1.75 = 14% more power on those very rare occasions where it is needed.

When driving the planer with the SS and wide stock, then perhaps it is worth the effort. ///end JPG

True on the power. However, less current draw by the motor on 220 maybe = longer life. Probably not a real issue but for the sake of a $5 power plug and if you have a 220 socket why not?

I certainly would not install a 220 socket just for the SS but if I already had one...
Ain't gonna be that way! The motor draw will always be dependent upon mechanical load. The increased voltage methinks will merely help the power supply provide that current to the motor.
Huhh!!! :confused: :confused: :confused: Methinks you are incorrect. P=EI. The current is inversely proportional to the voltage for any give power.

Of course the motor will draw current based on the load but the current for a given load will be less at 220 than 110. Again P=EI, electricity 101.
We not discussing a resistor with DC applied.

Change to AC and phase angles come into play.

Insert a controller and all above becomes irrelevant.


i.e. it is NOT a linear device.
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