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New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

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Hello all! I recently purchased a used 520 50th anniversary Shopsmith, and got a great deal on it - the downside was that it sat outside for a while - it was covered with a tarp, but still rusted some of the exposed bits. I have since taken down the headstock, and everything looks in great condition. I removed the small bit of rust from the spindles - only the small bits poking out of the headstock case had any surface rust on them - and cleaned out, oiled and inspected all the interior parts. I haven't done any turning yet, so I am excited about getting this thing in good working order.

The arbors, tailstocks and other small bits that sat with the unit were coated in rust, but i put them all through some electrolysis rust removal, and they cleaned up well.

I have been able to identify most of the parts, but I have questions about 4. From left to right in the pictures below, what I can add:

The chuck doesn't appear to be a Shopsmith part (?) and it won't slide on to any spindle on the unit. The arbor piece it was attached to has a different taper on the other end, that fits into the tailstock. The part i find strange about it is that it is on a bearing - the front and back tapers are independent, and i don't see how that would be useful anywhere.

The middle piece I don't really have anything to add - regular right hand thread.

The last piece has a left hand thread
Image
http://i.imgur.com/EM0g7cs.jpg?1
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http://i.imgur.com/xqMPKe3.jpg?1

And finally, what I believe is the sanding wheel, but I would like confirmation of - I don't appear to have any kind of arbor that will fit that hole in the center, so I need to hunt one down:
Image
http://i.imgur.com/PLeiCtE.jpg
Image
http://i.imgur.com/Rksx0vb.jpg



and, should anyone be interested, the Shopsmith itself. I am aware that the bandsaw is in backwards, it is the only way I can currently store it in my garage.
http://i.imgur.com/SELgGH5.jpg

Thanks to all for looking, and extra thanks to those that provide any insight!

Edited 5.7.16 to include pictures in the post
Last edited by zacnotes on Sun May 08, 2016 12:06 am, edited 1 time in total.
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If you truely want help, upload the pix to this forum.
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Re: New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

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JPG wrote:If you truely want help, upload the pix to this forum.
Pictures uploaded - I did not originally because of the forum file size limit. Original links left for those that want a bigger picture.
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zacnotes wrote:
JPG wrote:If you truely want help, upload the pix to this forum.
Pictures uploaded - I did not originally because of the forum file size limit. Original links left for those that want a bigger picture.
But why so small? Bigger will work.
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zacnotes wrote:Hello all! I recently purchased a used 520 50th anniversary Shopsmith, and got a great deal on it - the downside was that it sat outside for a while - it was covered with a tarp, but still rusted some of the exposed bits. I have since taken down the headstock, and everything looks in great condition. I removed the small bit of rust from the spindles - only the small bits poking out of the headstock case had any surface rust on them - and cleaned out, oiled and inspected all the interior parts. I haven't done any turning yet, so I am excited about getting this thing in good working order.

The arbors, tailstocks and other small bits that sat with the unit were coated in rust, but i put them all through some electrolysis rust removal, and they cleaned up well.

I have been able to identify most of the parts, but I have questions about 4. From left to right in the pictures below, what I can add:

The chuck doesn't appear to be a Shopsmith part (?) and it won't slide on to any spindle on the unit. The arbor piece it was attached to has a different taper on the other end, that fits into the tailstock. The part i find strange about it is that it is on a bearing - the front and back tapers are independent, and i don't see how that would be useful anywhere.

The middle piece I don't really have anything to add - regular right hand thread.

The last piece has a left hand thread Unknown chuck,5/8 saw arbor,1 1/4 saw arbor
Image
http://i.imgur.com/EM0g7cs.jpg?1
Image
http://i.imgur.com/xqMPKe3.jpg?1

And finally, what I believe is the sanding wheel, but I would like confirmation of - I don't appear to have any kind of arbor that will fit that hole in the center, so I need to hunt one down:
Image Universal tool rest part
http://i.imgur.com/PLeiCtE.jpg
Image
http://i.imgur.com/Rksx0vb.jpg



and, should anyone be interested, the Shopsmith itself. I am aware that the bandsaw is in backwards, it is the only way I can currently store it in my garage.
http://i.imgur.com/SELgGH5.jpg

Thanks to all for looking, and extra thanks to those that provide any insight!

Edited 5.7.16 to include pictures in the post
A Mark V either a 505 or 510 or 520(need tables to tell)
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Re: New Shopsmith owner - parts identification

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Looks like a 520 with that wide rip fence (under the peg board) and the table (under the bt3100 Ryobi) table saw....
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rcplaneguy wrote:Looks like a 520 with that wide rip fence (under the peg board) and the table (under the bt3100 Ryobi) table saw....
It is a 520- I have the unit itself identified, just need help with the couple of other items pictured
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Look in JPG's last reply. He ID'd the parts inline in the quoted text, in bold.
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BuckeyeDennis wrote:Look in JPG's last reply. He ID'd the parts inline in the quoted text, in bold.
Thanks JPG- that makes sense. Looks like I have a couple of items to add, and I am not sure what I am going to do with the larger arbors.

Also, thanks Buckeye- I missed that in JPG's post.
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Regarding the drill chuck.

Not SS, but interesting none the less if you are interested in 'turning'.

The chuck itself has a taper bore(quite common with chucks).

The other end adapts the chuck to other tapered bores. If it is a #2 Morse Taper that it will work in the SS tailstock.

A bearing in between? Unusual, but it would allow the chuck to function as a live tailstock center.

P.S. More info on the bearing may help us understand it.
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E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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