Yesterday, I was about to square up the glued up alternating black and white boards for a chess board. Going for 2 3/4" squares, the board was a little over 22"x22". The chore was to rip out 8 boards each 2 3/4" wide. This would give me 8 boards of alternating black and white squares.
To do this would require correct alignment of the 510 table with the saw blade. So I got out the dial indicator. The table hasn't been aligned for at least 6 years, and the shopsmith has been moved all around my shop, sometimes on a rubber pad, sometimes on concrete, sometimes half and half (a twist of the tubes). It hasn't been treated gently - just reasonably.
Okay - now the story - The blade checked out at .003" deflection. Not too sure of this measurement after reading all the horror stories in the forum, I rotated the machine 90 degrees and measured again using both miter slots. Well they repeated the same .003". Aren't 3 little marks on the Shopsmith Dial indicator = to .003"? Anyway it is still pretty well aligned.
Amazing? No just true
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Re: Amazing? No just true
Charlese, I saw neat thing on a You Tube post on how to glue up black and white boards, cut them and then turn/alternate them for Chess Board, I thought I saved it but cant find it. I dont know if it was here or LumberJocks.
.003, darn the TiteBond will fill that.
.003, darn the TiteBond will fill that.
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Re: Amazing? No just true
Be confident that those readings are correct! I have said all along that if the Mark 5/V was properly aligned that it would maintain that alignment even through 'heavy use'. A very important factor is the five locks. Not so much the quill but the other four must be secure to get repeatably accurate cuts.charlese wrote:Yesterday, I was about to square up the glued up alternating black and white boards for a chess board. Going for 2 3/4" squares, the board was a little over 22"x22". The chore was to rip out 8 boards each 2 3/4" wide. This would give me 8 boards of alternating black and white squares.
To do this would require correct alignment of the 510 table with the saw blade. So I got out the dial indicator. The table hasn't been aligned for at least 6 years, and the shopsmith has been moved all around my shop, sometimes on a rubber pad, sometimes on concrete, sometimes half and half (a twist of the tubes). It hasn't been treated gently - just reasonably.
Okay - now the story - The blade checked out at .003" deflection. Not too sure of this measurement after reading all the horror stories in the forum, I rotated the machine 90 degrees and measured again using both miter slots. Well they repeated the same .003". Aren't 3 little marks on the Shopsmith Dial indicator = to .003"? Anyway it is still pretty well aligned.
I remain satisfied with mine. I added the double tilt but I do not believe that improved either accuracy or repeatability. It is hard to improve upon .005".
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Re: Amazing? No just true
Thanks Charlese. I often wonder how often I should "align" my table(s). Every time I check them, they were in alignment (even the 10ER's) but that just created a doubt as to whether I was doing it right or not.
You just added a lot of confidence in not only my alignment prowess, but confidence in the machines themselves.
Again thanks!
You just added a lot of confidence in not only my alignment prowess, but confidence in the machines themselves.
Again thanks!
Dick
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
Re: Amazing? No just true
They sawed square and glued up square. Yes, I have confidence that the machine will hold alignment through many operations and many years. When measured corner to corner - this board measured 31 7/8" both ways.
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Chuck in Lancaster, CA
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Re: Amazing? No just true
Nice job. Did you use a sled or just the shopsmith miter gauge?
Re: Amazing? No just true
Shopsmith miter gauge with Shopsmith 20" Aluminum extension. Fence with a starting block for width of cuts. Did a trial piece first to make sure the width was correct.
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Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Chuck in Lancaster, CA