10ER rebuild

[Guest]

The only speed changer recently listed on eBay just went for $215.50. I think I'll take my time on that one.

I did order an extra tie bar for $17 shipped that I just got today. It's marked with the same part number as the one off my machine, but doesn't have thicker reinforced areas around the set screws and middle, so I guess it's from an earlier model. I intentionally bought this thinner version by picture so that I could get it closer to the back of the headstock if needed. I think I'll try to do some version of a jack shaft speed reducer like that video I previously linked using this part. I'll be sure to document my failures...

I also made the PVC pipe contraption I read about to soak the tubes (can't remember if it was here it elsewhere). It seems like it should work good.[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201801 ... ff1cda.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201801 ... e6f3a8.jpg[/IMG]

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[badtheba]

The only speed changer recently listed on eBay just went for $215.50. I think I'll take my time on that one.

I did order an extra tie bar for $17 shipped that I just got today. It's marked with the same part number as the one off my machine, but doesn't have thicker reinforced areas around the set screws and middle, so I guess it's from an earlier model. I intentionally bought this thinner version by picture so that I could get it closer to the back of the headstock if needed. I think I'll try to do some version of a jack shaft speed reducer like that video I previously linked using this part. I'll be sure to document my failures...

I also made the PVC pipe contraption I read about to soak the tubes (can't remember if it was here it elsewhere). It seems like it should work good.

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[Dansmith]

As to the speed changer, you might be better off looking for a used 10 with a speed changer. I was fortunate enough to find 2 10ER's last year with speed changers, one for $100.00, and one for $200.00 or so for the entire 10ER and some extras. One is now a dedicated drill press and the other a dedicated lathe. I'm still looking for one for my brother.

[chapmanruss]

I wanted to get back to you about the Jointer upgrades. The dust chute will not work on the Model 4E jointer. There are no mounting holes for it and due to the way it mounts on the Model 10's it would be in the way. The safety upgrades and feather guard will work if you wish to do them. As for dust collection the Stay Put System could be used to get some of it although not the best as compared to the Dust Collection Chute. I recently got one and have not tried it for this yet but the next time I use the 4E Jointer I will.

As for the table surfaces care must be taken to keep them flat and even. When originally made the in-feed and out-feed tables are ground together.

Keep up the good work

[badtheba]

I wanted to get back to you about the Jointer upgrades. The dust chute will not work on the Model 4E jointer. There are no mounting holes for it and due to the way it mounts on the Model 10's it would be in the way. The safety upgrades and feather guard will work if you wish to do them. As for dust collection the Stay Put System could be used to get some of it although not the best as compared to the Dust Collection Chute. I recently got one and have not tried it for this yet but the next time I use the 4E Jointer I will.

As for the table surfaces care must be taken to keep them flat and even. When originally made the in-feed and out-feed tables are ground together.

Keep up the good work

Sounds good. Have you or anyone else attempted a homemade dust collection chute from plywood or anything? I'll probably try something later, but would love to see pics or plans if it's already been done. Just got a new Shop Vac with the 2.5" hose and several filters and bags and decent HP motor, so I'd like to be able to hook it up to the things that will be the messiest.

I actually got a blower vac at Lowe's after exchanging a lesser one I received for Christmas. I tested the blower out on my daughter's hair, and I think it's safe to say it would have enough power to blow out the garage if I am not able to suck it up.

[badtheba]

To everyone who suggested using Evapo-rust before abrasive or anything mechanical on the way tubes, a big THANKS! I figured they would come pretty clean, but did not figure in a million years they would be as smooth as they are now. It will hardly take anything to take care of the minor rough spots now.

Also, if anyone can remember where the PVC pipe idea to save on volume of Evapo-rust originated, I'd like to give credit there as well. I can't find it by Google or searches here, but it was a huge help.

The first two pics are the same tube in the same spot, before and after. Left overnight, 12-14hrs.

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[algale]

The stuff works like magic. Unfortunately, it is pricey (could be called Evapo-Cash).

[badtheba]

The stuff works like magic. Unfortunately, it is pricey (could be called Evapo-Cash).

In an earlier post I stated I waited 3-4 days after I saw HF's price, instead ordering it though my wife's work for $10 less. I'm sure I would have still bought it, considering everyone's recommendations, but since HF wouldn't match Walmart's website they lost a sale on that one. Walmart has it ship to store for $19 or so. HF is 25.99 and you'd have to have a picture of it on a competitor's shelf at a lower price for them to match it.

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[badtheba]

Was just reading on acid dipping cast iron, as there are a couple companies nearby I've heard of that offer this. Then something in an article triggered my memory that my old employer at the bike/fitness shop bought an ultrasonic cleaner for bike parts. Has anyone used these for the small to medium cast iron parts? I wonder if it would get off paint as well as the grime. I don't think their tank is very large, so I'd probably be limited to nothing bigger than the jointer headrest.

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[JPG]

My first exposure to using pvc pipe was when in a saw dust session, a pipe and potato was used to 'dissolve' rust on way tubes. That process took a couple of weeks.

Subsequent to that evaporust was 'discovered'. It usually works over night.

I currently use a 2" outer pipe and an inner 1" pipe to minimize amount of 'evapocash' needed.

Evaporust can be reused, but it will eventually lose the magic.

MickyD discovered why it is called evaporust. If left out, it evaporates. Interesting things can happen when it evaporates.