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terrydowning
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Post by terrydowning »

I have an A Head stock, but I don't drop the motor to lubricate.

Here is what I do.
Set in drill press mode
Unscrew belt cover, slide up the way tubes, and clamp out of the way.

Inspect everything while I'm in there and vac sawdust/wipe clean or whatever,

I can easily lube the motor spindle,

I lube the idler spindle using 3 in 1 oil with the handy extendable flexible spout.

I then manually run the speed up and down to work the oil onto the shafts to makes sure every thing is lubed add then a few extra drops and let it sit overnight.

The next day, run the motor and run the speed up and down a couple time to make sure everything is happy, replace the cover and back to work.

I do this about once a month (or earlier if I've been using my machine a lot)

I've never felt a need to drop the motor just to lube the idler shaft.

Am I missing something??
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I be curious how you get the oil to the idler shaft/control sheave from that position.
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I'll take photos next time I have it up for lubrication. Probably in a few weeks, shop time has been severely curtailed due to Marching Band Season being in high gear (Just 3 more shows this year) and my weekends are spent doing band stuff or routine chores.
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Post by waycoolco »

i am sorry if i am ignorant, but on my greenie with no access panel, where DO i put the oil since there is no oil hole that i can see. (i get i need to drop the pan, but still have no idea what to do next. thank you.
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terrydowning wrote:I have an A Head stock, but I don't drop the motor to lubricate.

Here is what I do.
Set in drill press mode
Unscrew belt cover, slide up the way tubes, and clamp out of the way.

Inspect everything while I'm in there and vac sawdust/wipe clean or whatever,

I can easily lube the motor spindle,

I lube the idler spindle using 3 in 1 oil with the handy extendable flexible spout.

I then manually run the speed up and down to work the oil onto the shafts to makes sure every thing is lubed add then a few extra drops and let it sit overnight.

The next day, run the motor and run the speed up and down a couple time to make sure everything is happy, replace the cover and back to work.

I do this about once a month (or earlier if I've been using my machine a lot)

I've never felt a need to drop the motor just to lube the idler shaft.

Am I missing something??
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I have mentioned this before but I don't have an early headstock that I am willing to modify at this time.

I have attached a photo of a stainless steel inspection port for marine application that might be a real easy solution. There are a host of types of ports in metal or plastic and prices across the board.

Were I to use this one, recognizing the area it would mount is not 100% flat, I would mount it with auto masking tape on the back side, then fill the gaps with JB Weld to fashion what would appear to have been a cast stand-off for it, then touch up the paint accordingly.

It would be simple, and solve the problem. One could still affix the logo plate if desired and have a finished inspection port.

This 316 stainless steel highly polished inspection port includes a deck ring and cap. The cap is supplied with an o ring to ensure a watertight seal.

Specifications

I.D: 75mm (3")
Flange O.D: 119mm (4-11/16")
Cut Out Hole Size: 85mm (3-3/8")

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I did say I would post photos. Sorry it's taken so long. (5 years! Really?)

I have an A head stock and I don't have an inspection hole. I really don't want to drill or cut on my headstock.

Here is what I do.
Set in drill press mode
Unscrew belt cover,
NOTE: I upgraded the screws on mine to 5/32 allen head socket cap screws.
The original threads were stripping out and I had to do something. So I replaced with the socket screws and used some JB weld to fasten corresponding nuts to the inside of the headstock.
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now I can use my magic tool for removing the screws.
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slide up the way tubes, and clamp out of the way.
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Inspect everything while I'm in there and vac sawdust/wipe clean or whatever,

I can easily lube the motor spindle,

I insert a screw driver into the spring and spread it apart in several locations.
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I lube the idler spindle using 3 in 1 oil with the handy extendable flexible spout. The oil just has to get on to the shaft it does not have to go in some magic hole.

I put the tip of the oiler between the sheaves and shoot some oil onto the shaft. Spin it a bit and put some more on a different part of the shaft.
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I then manually run the speed up and down to work the oil onto the shafts to make sure every thing is lubed add then a few extra drops and let it sit overnight.

The next day, run the motor and run the speed up and down a couple time to make sure everything is happy, replace the cover and back to work.


Just the way I do it for a quick lube.

I do sometimes drop the motor. if more thorough cleaning is required. In which case I reverse the table on the carriage put some cardboard down loosen the screws and fold the motor pan down onto the table.
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Post by JPG »

When oiling the floating sheave, the oil Needs to get between the motor shaft and the sheave, not on the outside of the sheave Hub.
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