Model 500 carriage problem

19manofgod92 · Post by **19manofgod92** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:38 pm

I need part 164 of the Shopsmith diagram : Model 500, carriage diagram, part number 164. I don’t even know what part this is and my tool rest won’t stay up now. Got any ideas what this could be guys?

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/part ... rriage.gif

This is the diagram guys, still don’t know the part.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:05 pm

It is a common c-clip.

Recently they are being called "E" clips.

It slips in to a groove in the square rod(165) and serves to retain the pinion gear(163).

P.S. "ACE" is de place.

everettdavis · Post by **everettdavis** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:34 am

Take the rod with you to Ace or Lowes, Home Depot etc.

Show them this picture and find the size you need to fit in the groove in the shaft and lock in place.

Everett

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chapmanruss · Post by **chapmanruss** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:35 pm

Without the clip all you are doing when turning the lock is pulling the rod out. It needs the clip to hold it to the back side to apply pressure to lock the pinion gears to hold your tool rest or table in place.

19manofgod92 · Post by **19manofgod92** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:26 pm

Thanks guys, I’ve done hours of researche and never could figure it out! Thanks a million guys

19manofgod92 · Post by **19manofgod92** » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:57 pm

So I tried an eclip like Everett said and it was far too weak to hold the tool rest up and keep it from moving side to side. It even bent and almost broke

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:58 pm

19manofgod92 wrote:So I tried an eclip like Everett said and it was far too weak to hold the tool rest up and keep it from moving side to side. It even bent and almost broke

What size clip did you try? Important dimensions are the inner od of the shaft it goes on and the od of the clip itself(as well as the thickness).

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:50 am

JPG wrote:
19manofgod92 wrote:So I tried an eclip like Everett said and it was far too weak to hold the tool rest up and keep it from moving side to side. It even bent and almost broke
What size clip did you try? Important dimensions are the inner od of the shaft it goes on and the od of the clip itself(as well as the thickness).

This is also the sort of hardware that is easily manufactured by those who do "cheap". Go somewhere that sells to the trades rather than the general public. Avoid the "big box" for this sort of item.

I would seek out a machine shop and even then I would ask for the best.

19manofgod92 · Post by **19manofgod92** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:22 pm

Thanks guys! And I had a guy I know who works at a fastener company take the rod and fit it himself. Company called Valley Fastener and while I appreciate what he did, it’s entirely too weak for what I needed.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:36 pm

19manofgod92 wrote:Thanks guys! And I had a guy I know who works at a fastener company take the rod and fit it himself. Company called Valley Fastener and while I appreciate what he did, it’s entirely too weak for what I needed.

I would be interested in seeing pix of this.

Is it perhaps due to some other thing not correct in the reassembly?

The mechanism is quite simple and not prone to either failure nor mis assembly. Are there perhaps other parts missing or not assembled correctly?

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