br549 wrote:I have neither a PowerPro nor have I done an upgrade, but could it be because you have a type "B" headstock with a toggle switch, and not a type "C" headstock with the red rectangular safety key switch that was introduced in 1991? From the "History" section of the Mark 7/ Mark V page:
1991 -- “C” Headstock
1991 Mark V Models were introduced with the “C” Headstock featuring a Red Safety Key Switch.
EDIT: I just looked at what is included in a self-install upgrade kit, and I think I now see your delimma. The short video does not specifically mention a switch as being included, but it sure looks like a toggle switch in the picture. I will have to defer to someone with first hand experience.
Just a curious anomaly in the upgrade photo.... Zoom the picture to examine the splines on the quill. I have always found it odd they didn't use a photo of the poly-v version of the assembly and actually used an old Gilmer drive quill assembly in the photo for what's in the Power Pro upgrade.
Sorry for the diversion.
Everett
Where is that upgrade photo located? I have not noticed a gilmer quill in any upgrade pix that I have seen.
As for the A/B/C headstock/switch concern, AIUI you will be asked which you have so the proper switch is included. However I seem to recall recently
that they are including BOTH in the DIY upgrade.
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br549 wrote:I have neither a PowerPro nor have I done an upgrade, but could it be because you have a type "B" headstock with a toggle switch, and not a type "C" headstock with the red rectangular safety key switch that was introduced in 1991? From the "History" section of the Mark 7/ Mark V page:
1991 -- “C” Headstock
1991 Mark V Models were introduced with the “C” Headstock featuring a Red Safety Key Switch.
EDIT: I just looked at what is included in a self-install upgrade kit, and I think I now see your delimma. The short video does not specifically mention a switch as being included, but it sure looks like a toggle switch in the picture. I will have to defer to someone with first hand experience.
Just a curious anomaly in the upgrade photo.... Zoom the picture to examine the splines on the quill. I have always found it odd they didn't use a photo of the poly-v version of the assembly and actually used an old Gilmer drive quill assembly in the photo for what's in the Power Pro upgrade.
Sorry for the diversion.
Everett
Where is that upgrade photo located? I have not noticed a gilmer quill in any upgrade pix that I have seen.
As for the A/B/C headstock/switch concern, AIUI you will be asked which you have so the proper switch is included. However I seem to recall recently
that they are including BOTH in the DIY upgrade.
It is the photo in the second post in this thread.
Since the gilmer quills were not to my knowledge ever black oxidized I also wonder where the one in the picture came from? Is it possible the photo is playing tricks?
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JPG wrote:Since the gilmer quills were not to my knowledge ever black oxidized I also wonder where the one in the picture came from? Is it possible the photo is playing tricks?
Yes, that is very "possible" but it is also possible that the quills were at some time black oxidized.
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JPG wrote:Since the gilmer quills were not to my knowledge ever black oxidized I also wonder where the one in the picture came from? Is it possible the photo is playing tricks?
Yes, that is very "possible" but it is also possible that the quills were at some time black oxidized.
The proliferation of black oxidizing steel parts as rust prevention is a SS Inc. induced procedure. Other than screws etc. Magna et al and Yuba did not do so. I do not think anyone else produced Gilmer quills.
I believe the photo is suspect as to what is pictured.
P.S. Regardless one would think a version specific two bearing quill would have been provided to the photographer.
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JPG wrote:Since the gilmer quills were not to my knowledge ever black oxidized I also wonder where the one in the picture came from? Is it possible the photo is playing tricks?
Yes, that is very "possible" but it is also possible that the quills were at some time black oxidized.
The proliferation of black oxidizing steel parts as rust prevention is a SS Inc. induced procedure. Other than screws etc. Magna et al and Yuba did not do so. I do not think anyone else produced Gilmer quills.
I believe the photo is suspect as to what is pictured.
P.S. Regardless one would think a version specific two bearing quill would have been provided to the photographer.
It sure looks like an early Gilmer when you zoom in.
Everett
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Fer sure the idler pulley is unique to the power pro, but I bet it is the same diameter as earlier ones.
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