It's pretty bad, not sure about the sliders but will check. I did file down some of the sharp points. The cuts are at 2 different angles and go a long way through the gauge. Must have made a scary sound!DLB wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:47 pm One more - That's a remarkable level of damage on the miter gauge. It looks like one of the nylon slides is probably gone.
Advice on 510 purchase
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Re: Advice on 510 purchase
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Re: Advice on 510 purchase
Smacking with anything rarely solves any problem.(unless one KNOWS smacking is required).
Remove the retainer bracket etc. and push the entire wheel/shaft/bearing completely out of the base casting. Then determine why it does not go completely in. It DOES have the bearing retainer etc.???
Remove the retainer bracket etc. and push the entire wheel/shaft/bearing completely out of the base casting. Then determine why it does not go completely in. It DOES have the bearing retainer etc.???
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Hint: the pulley has 13 grooves. The belt has 9 ribs. Guess where the belt nominally goes.
Move it forward(towards the quill end) at least one groove.
Move it forward(towards the quill end) at least one groove.
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Will do. ThanksJPG wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:17 pm Hint: the pulley has 13 grooves. The belt has 9 ribs. Guess where the belt nominally goes.
Move it forward(towards the quill end) at least one groove.
Re: Advice on 510 purchase
Also scary close to where the operator's hand goes! The setup looks like the blade was nowhere near the center of the table opening, either no insert or a custom one.mattmeek wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:11 pmIt's pretty bad, not sure about the sliders but will check. I did file down some of the sharp points. The cuts are at 2 different angles and go a long way through the gauge. Must have made a scary sound!DLB wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:47 pm One more - That's a remarkable level of damage on the miter gauge. It looks like one of the nylon slides is probably gone.
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Re: Advice on 510 purchase
For your Bandsaw.
As JPG said
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/manuals/845541.pdf
As for the Miter it looks like the previous owner made some bevel cuts and removed the table insert for the blade to clear instead of extending the quill. Always use the Miter to the right of the blade for bevel cuts. The miter for my 520 has a single small cut in it that my father-in-law did by not following that rule. See the miter on the left below. I have had several Model 10's with cuts in their miters too. I have found most can be repaired with JB Weld to fill the cut and after repainting is hardly noticeable. Yours look a little to far gone to repair.
As JPG said
The Lower Wheel Assembly (ref # 28) is not seated all the way in. It should be held in place by the Bearing Retainer (ref # 31) and a bolt and washer. They are shown in the exploded drawings at the link below.Smacking with anything rarely solves any problem.(unless one KNOWS smacking is required).
Remove the retainer bracket etc. and push the entire wheel/shaft/bearing completely out of the base casting. Then determine why it does not go completely in. It DOES have the bearing retainer etc.???
https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/manuals/845541.pdf
As for the Miter it looks like the previous owner made some bevel cuts and removed the table insert for the blade to clear instead of extending the quill. Always use the Miter to the right of the blade for bevel cuts. The miter for my 520 has a single small cut in it that my father-in-law did by not following that rule. See the miter on the left below. I have had several Model 10's with cuts in their miters too. I have found most can be repaired with JB Weld to fill the cut and after repainting is hardly noticeable. Yours look a little to far gone to repair.
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Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
Re: Advice on 510 purchase
Thanks Russ, I think you're right and I will be looking for a replacement miter gauge. I checked and the nylon glide was sheared off on that side.
I did get the bandsaw wheels in proper alignment by first taking the blade off and then "gently" tapping on the center of the lower wheel. It inched back until it made solid contact. I hooked it up and made some test cuts. I did see the bearing retainer clip but it must not be positioned correctly. I will get that fixed tomorrow. It would be helpful to see how it's supposed to look.
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Matthew
I did get the bandsaw wheels in proper alignment by first taking the blade off and then "gently" tapping on the center of the lower wheel. It inched back until it made solid contact. I hooked it up and made some test cuts. I did see the bearing retainer clip but it must not be positioned correctly. I will get that fixed tomorrow. It would be helpful to see how it's supposed to look.
Thanks
Matthew
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Re: Advice on 510 purchase
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Here is some info on the clip, it starts on page 3 and has some pictures:
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Well a newly discovered forum skin difference!
How does one link to a previous post(anywhere in the forum universe) so as to do what Reible could not do above.(link to the post that contained the pix)
How does one link to a previous post(anywhere in the forum universe) so as to do what Reible could not do above.(link to the post that contained the pix)
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