Outfeed table

[DC Ross]

Hey again,

I set up my new (to me) outfeed table on my 510, and things aren't lining up as expected. When level, the outfeed table sits about 1/2" above the main table, when it should be even (or slightly below?). I believe it's set up correctly: the two cutouts face up, correct? Any other insights?

Thanks!

[paulmcohen]

Do you have a 500 outfeed table on a 510, it sounds like it?

[reible]

Got Pictures???

Ed

[dusty]

Why would having a 500 outfeed table on a 510 be suspect. We have read so much here on the forum about 510 outfeed tables being made using otherwise discarded 500 tables.

I had concluded that this was a natural. Am I wrong?

[reible]

Why would having a 500 outfeed table on a 510 be suspect. We have read so much here on the forum about 510 outfeed tables being made using otherwise discarded 500 tables.

I had concluded that this was a natural. Am I wrong?

One of the reason I ask for a picture is to see what outfeed table we are talking about. You though of one thing and I thought of another....

What I'm picturing is the item shopsmith calls a "Support Table"
model 500 (555306)
model 510 (555307)
model 520 (555784)
conversion kit (521651)

I have one of these but I don't think they sold well at the price but it is very heavy duty and tips with the saw table.... I had a problem when I went to the 520 in that the furnished brackets had the table set to low by some amount (I don't recall the dimension now). I was talking to tech support and they sent out different brackets and we tried varrious things then I just decided to make a pad to fit under each bracket to adjust the height and the problem was passed to engineering... they never did tell me what they found out or what solution was done....... Since I converted later in life I was suprised that someone else had not run into this before.... thus my thought that very few people purchased them.

You can go here to see the support table and the newer extension table brackets (555997) set up:
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/elv60504@sbcglobal.net/album/576460762310296337/photo/294928803480299087/1
You end up with about 86" of table length see:
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/elv60504@sbcglobal.net/album/576460762310296337/photo/294928803480348176/2

BTW the part number were from the Father's Day sale flyer 2006 and I did not check to see if those parts are still listed.......

Ed

[paulmcohen]

Why would having a 500 outfeed table on a 510 be suspect. We have read so much here on the forum about 510 outfeed tables being made using otherwise discarded 500 tables.

I had concluded that this was a natural. Am I wrong?

Several issues here, some people make their own outfeed tables by using discarded 500 tops and aligning the miter slots. Shopsmith sells an outfeed table I have used for years, when I upgraded from a 500 to 510 I had to wait until Shopsmith offered a conversion kit (521651). This was mostly some wooden blocks that made everything line up.

It sounds like you have an older extension table with a newer 510.

[james.miller]

It sounds to me like they gave you an outfeed table with the spacer blocks for a 520. When I upgraded my 510 to a 520 I had to get thicker blocks.

Jim in Tucson

[dusty]

reible

Every time I start to do any research toward my outfeed table, I find these pictures that you link to here. I assume this is your Shopsmith in the driveway. Looks like a nice setup. Also like the looks of the area where you live. It looks alive and green, if you know what I mean. Light brown or beige is the predominant outside color here.

Back to the subject at hand. We keep talking about outfeed tables built from repurposed 500 extension tables. But, correct me if I am wrong, the photos feature 520 extension tables, mating to a 520 main table, as an infeed table. The alignment looks to be perfect; but that is as it should be. Afterall, this setup was engineered and not klugged.

I also note that the miter gauge slots function perfectly with the recessed spaces on the outfeed table. I now understand why that area has be excavated as it has. Aligning t-slots is very difficult while fitting into that wide area is "no challenge".

How about a couple photos of 555997. Especially a full view from the side showing its relationship to the table surfaces.

I think that by using the 520 rail assemblies and not attempting to intermix 500 to 510 to 520 rails and bars you have done the right thing. Unfortunately, this means a purchase rather than a build project.

I really like your setup but I still may be a maverick and attempt it my way. Too stubborn for my own good I guess.

I think that repurposing older (500) model extension tables into outfeed tables for either 510s or 520s carries with it a task of vertical realignment as the rail assemblies are NOT inherently compatible. One of the other approaches involves the use of a repurposed table and carriage assembly mounted on a roll-around cart to act as an outfeed table.

[reible]

reible

Every time I start to do any research toward my outfeed table, I find these pictures that you link to here. I assume this is your Shopsmith in the driveway. Looks like a nice setup. Also like the looks of the area where you live. It looks alive and green, if you know what I mean. Light brown or beige is the predominant outside color here.

Yes that is my shopsmith, the funny thing is I have one just like it in the garage, so if you see extra parts it is because I have two sets, one from each shopsmith.

As far as green goes, or is that comes??? Anyway we are trying to have spring here in IL so the cherry trees are in blossoms trying to figure what happen to the warm weather... it is 27 degrees and we might have snow overnight.... but yes it will be green soon.

Back to the subject at hand. We keep talking about outfeed tables built from repurposed 500 extension tables. But, correct me if I am wrong, the photos feature 520 extension tables, mating to a 520 main table, as an infeed table. The alignment looks to be perfect]Yes you are correct, the extension tables can either be used as infeeds or outfeeds or if you have two sets then of course both in and out feeds. In fact I might just get another set.[/color]

I also note that the miter gauge slots function perfectly with the recessed spaces on the outfeed table. I now understand why that area has be excavated as it has. Aligning t-slots is very difficult while fitting into that wide area is "no challenge".

How about a couple photos of 555997. Especially a full view from the side showing its relationship to the table surfaces.

I can do that, might be a few days until it warms up enough to do a real set up but I could just shoot a few in the garage so you can see what it looks like from the side. If you are hoping to build them it might not be as easy as it looks.... more of a metal project then one for wood.

I think that by using the 520 rail assemblies and not attempting to intermix 500 to 510 to 520 rails and bars you have done the right thing. Unfortunately, this means a purchase rather than a build project.

I really like your setup but I still may be a maverick and attempt it my way. Too stubborn for my own good I guess.

I think that repurposing older (500) model extension tables into outfeed tables for either 510s or 520s carries with it a task of vertical realignment as the rail assemblies are NOT inherently compatible. One of the other approaches involves the use of a repurposed table and carriage assembly mounted on a roll-around cart to act as an outfeed table.

One of the things I like about my set up is that it is stable. Some of the designs I have seen seem to be designed such that they could tip over... In fact a roller stand I've owned for years took a nose dive last year and it broke a plastic bit that it needs to space the legs... the company that made it does not support it any longer so I'm out of luck or have to find another way to do it.... right now I'm leaning towards getting a new one... Now I wish I had kept the one I built out of the PTWFE or some such book and just put levelers on it.

Ed

[Nick]

My co-instructor, Drew Achtermann, likes the Shopsmith outfeed table but got tired of running around to the back of the Shopsmith every time he needed to change the table height, tilt the table, or move the Shopsmith. Here's his solution and it works like a champ. The outfeed table raises, lowers, tilts, and moves with the Shopsmith. Furthermore, it can be folded down, out of the way, in just a few seconds and completely detached from (or re-attached to) the Shopsmith in less than a minute. And because the outfeed table is supported by a brace that is triagulated off the main table support post and both tables are tied together in a single assembly, the setup is actually sturdier than having the outfeed table resting on it's own dedicated leg.

Here's a static photo and an animated gif to show you how it works. This same concept, by the way, would work for either an infeed or an outfeed table.

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We've worked with this design for about 4 months at the Academy and have found that it makes the outfeed table much easier to use. The students who have used it seem to agree.

With all good wishes,