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Is the 885586 supposedly a Shopsmith part. It is certainly not a part used in my bandsaw.
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Dusty, back up a page and look at the previous post about this.
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db5 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:01 pm Dusty, back up a page and look at the previous post about this.
I have read them. I still have the same question. Is this a Shopsmith part? I have heard others refer to bearings in the Shopsmith as being water pump bearings.

Quote CT9545: "Just a follow up, I installed the new bearing today “#885586 integral water pump assembly”, I heated the aluminum wheel and used my 3 arm puller, it came off smooth and easy, reheated the wheel and drove it on the new shaft to the correct depth, ground off a flat on the other end for the set screw and the saw is humming like new. Total coast was just over $20! Just make sure you get the wheel back on the shaft at the same depth as the old one so the blade lines up properly".
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dusty wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:27 pm
I have read them. I still have the same question. Is this a Shopsmith part? I have heard others refer to bearings in the Shopsmith as being water pump bearings.
It's not a Shopsmith part number. He found the part on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/c/8002850542
Shopsmith sells the bearing and lower wheel together: https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/ite ... tem=509032
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edma194 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:24 pm
dusty wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:27 pm
I have read them. I still have the same question. Is this a Shopsmith part? I have heard others refer to bearings in the Shopsmith as being water pump bearings.
It's not a Shopsmith part number. He found the part on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/c/8002850542
Shopsmith sells the bearing and lower wheel together: https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/ite ... tem=509032
OKAY. Let me ask this differently. Is this bearing (885586) being installed in a Shopsmith band saw.
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dusty wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:34 pm

OKAY. Let me ask this differently. Is this bearing (885586) being installed in a Shopsmith band saw.
Beats me. Looks like that info was his first 2 posts. I'm looking at that bearing on eBay, when I get a chance I'll take a look at one in a bandsaw, can't really tell anything from the parts diagram.
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dusty wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:34 pm OKAY. Let me ask this differently. Is this bearing (885586) being installed in a Shopsmith band saw.
Dusty,

Yes, it appears to be the lower wheel bearing that he has found a non-Shopsmith version that can work. Note below that he had to grind the end of the shaft so that he could attach the drive hub to it in order to match the original Shopsmith part. So, it is not a simple drop-in replacement, but it does work according to him.
CT9545 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:58 pm I found the answer to replacing the lower bandsaw wheel bearing. Find a #885586 Integral water pump wheel bearing on eBay or Amazon, it is the exact bearing and shaft used originally. It measures.625 shaft thickness, the bearing is 1.18 in diameter, the shaft on the wheel end is 1.75 inch and extends on the drive side 3 inches. I paid about $20. It is necessary to grind a flat on the drive end for the set screw. Otherwise you just need to heat the wheel so you can pull it from the old shaft, put the wheel on the new shaft and re install it.
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RFGuy wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:04 pm
dusty wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:34 pm OKAY. Let me ask this differently. Is this bearing (885586) being installed in a Shopsmith band saw.
Dusty,

Yes, it appears to be the lower wheel bearing that he has found a non-Shopsmith version that can work. Note below that he had to grind the end of the shaft so that he could attach the drive hub to it in order to match the original Shopsmith part. So, it is not a simple drop-in replacement, but it does work according to him.
CT9545 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:58 pm I found the answer to replacing the lower bandsaw wheel bearing. Find a #885586 Integral water pump wheel bearing on eBay or Amazon, it is the exact bearing and shaft used originally. It measures.625 shaft thickness, the bearing is 1.18 in diameter, the shaft on the wheel end is 1.75 inch and extends on the drive side 3 inches. I paid about $20. It is necessary to grind a flat on the drive end for the set screw. Otherwise you just need to heat the wheel so you can pull it from the old shaft, put the wheel on the new shaft and re install it.
Assuming he has a SHOPSMITH bandsaw.
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Considering all the details described, I would CONCLUDE he WAS referring to a SS bandsaw. I know you/me, but I think low risk.
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I went ahead and ordered one of those bearings from eBay. If it's not compatible I'll find something else to do with it.

I want to try that out. That bearing takes a lot of abuse. There's the tension from the blade on it, when running and idle, and any misalignment of the shaft in the coupling is putting a radial load on it also. If it it fits well, I'd like to hear what it sounds like with the bearing fresh.

As far as I know, the term 'water pump bearing' means that a shaft forms the inner race of a double row ball bearing, and those are commonly used in automotive water pumps. Anyone know if there is more to it than that?
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