501337 CAM - Control, Shop Smith Mark VII

[jafpanda]

Is anyone looking or have information regarding the 1963 Mark VII Part number 501337 Cam - Control?

PN 501337 Cam - Control, 1963 Mark VII

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[edma194]

Should be multiple threads on this subject. Here is one to get you started: viewtopic.php?t=21276

[jafpanda]

Thanks Ed, I’ve seen many of the posts regarding the woes and advice surrounding the original Speed Control CAM.

It was molded from a plastic like (Delrin 500) material.
Typically it would melt as a result of the CAM Follower’s bearing seizing up.

The Delrin 500 NC10’s temperature of deflection under load, 1.80 MPa is about 93 degrees C.
Just guessing, but I think it was a design decision for it to fail when the CAM Follower’s bearing required replacement. Bearings that reach 100 degrees C aren’t really useful.

I had a bunch of Mark VII stuff scanned into a computer… but then the hard drive crashed.

Somewhere I have an original blueprint of the CAM along with original manuals. The BP was pretty hard to read since the quality wasn’t very good. I made about 20 CAM parts (CNC from Delrin) and 1 from aluminum about 15 years ago.

I’m thinking about recreating the 3D CAD and a 2D drawing to see how well a 3D printer would compare to the CNC parts I have.

So, bottom line… is there anyone out there that would be interested in this topic?

[GetterDone]

Thanks Ed, I’ve seen many of the posts regarding the woes and advice surrounding the original Speed Control CAM.

It was molded from a plastic like (Delrin 500) material.
Typically it would melt as a result of the CAM Follower’s bearing seizing up.

The Delrin 500 NC10’s temperature of deflection under load, 1.80 MPa is about 93 degrees C.
Just guessing, but I think it was a design decision for it to fail when the CAM Follower’s bearing required replacement. Bearings that reach 100 degrees C aren’t really useful.

I had a bunch of Mark VII stuff scanned into a computer… but then the hard drive crashed.

Somewhere I have an original blueprint of the CAM along with original manuals. The BP was pretty hard to read since the quality wasn’t very good. I made about 20 CAM parts (CNC from Delrin) and 1 from aluminum about 15 years ago.

I’m thinking about recreating the 3D CAD and a 2D drawing to see how well a 3D printer would compare to the CNC parts I have.

So, bottom line… is there anyone out there that would be interested in this topic?

I will be when I get time to check the condition of the cam in the one I purchased recently.

I have not had time to use it yet.

[JPG]

Interested? You are asking one who paid $80 for a cnc aluminum one a few years back.

And more recently 3D printed one.

Yes I think so!

[jafpanda]

Thanks JPG for the interest.
I’ve begun the restoration of the CAM ~ Control documentation.

The original Magna American Corporation (9-18-1963 revision “C”) blueprint is the basis to recreate an ANSI C size 2D drawing and subsequent blender 3D CAD model.

[JPG]

If you post (or e-mail) to me the full drawing at the same resolution, I may be able to improve legibility similar to partial effort below.

The original being an "E" size document may require it being done in sections. Focus is critical!

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[jafpanda]

Thanks JPG,

The blueprint note, "FULL SCALE" image on the print I have measures to the actual part size; it is correct.
Therefore, the blueprint note, "SCALE 2 x SIZE" implies that the print dimensions are doubled.
Additionally, the blueprint measurement is 17 x 22 (ANSI C dimensions).
The attachment shows a Mark VII CAM part against an 8.5x11 printed document that I made (so far).
The outline on the drawing is slightly covered by the part.
So, I'm pretty confident that the dimensions on the drawing are quite good.

I'll post a 8.5 x 11 pdf of the drawing I'm making in a bit.
I would appreciate any comments for correction.


Selfless Caveat: I'm no draftsman. The last time I touched a drafting board was in the 70's.

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[jafpanda]

Comments and corrections are welcome

PDF is a better resolution

CAM_Control_PN_501337_DWG.pdf

CAM-Control ShopSmith Mark-VII Magna American Corp, Restored C-Size Drawing

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PNG resolution is still good

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[jafpanda]

1st shot at a 3D model

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