Mark 5 upgrade
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mbcabinetmaker
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Mark 5 upgrade
This is a Mark 5 upgrade of my own design. After busting knuckles several times removing the lathe tool rest, I decided to replace that little red handle with a model 520 hand wheel. I played around with the hand wheel off of my 520 and discovered that it would work with some modifications. Mainly a small modification to the Mark 5 table because it will hit the hand wheel.
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I will be cutting this off right where it steps down for the handle
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Chucked in the 520 I just held a hack saw while turning it at slow speed.
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Now with the handle adapter cut down and a 3/8 washer as a spacer the mark 520 handle will fit.
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I will be cutting this off right where it steps down for the handle
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Chucked in the 520 I just held a hack saw while turning it at slow speed.
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Now with the handle adapter cut down and a 3/8 washer as a spacer the mark 520 handle will fit.
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mbcabinetmaker
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To get the table low enough in the drill press position for the sander to center I had to grind the table a little.
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After getting it to work with the sanding drum I locked the table down with stop rings set at about 1/32 inch clearance.
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The upgrade is complete with upgraded tool rest.
If Shopsmith would make a hand wheel 1 inch smaller than the 520 it would be a good seller!:)
Mark
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To get the table low enough in the drill press position for the sander to center I had to grind the table a little.
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After getting it to work with the sanding drum I locked the table down with stop rings set at about 1/32 inch clearance.
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The upgrade is complete with upgraded tool rest.
If Shopsmith would make a hand wheel 1 inch smaller than the 520 it would be a good seller!:)
Mark
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Here are a few...
http://grizzly.com/products/searchresults.aspx?q=hand%20wheel
http://grizzly.com/products/searchresults.aspx?q=hand%20wheel
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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This is a picture I posted on another thread recently showing 3 of my SS's shoved in a corner. If you look closely at the gray Mark V on the right you can see that it has a black hand wheel installed on it. I pulled it off of the greenie I bought in Massachusetts and gave to my grown son. The slightly modified miter gauge on the brown Mark V to the left came off of the same machine as did the nicely homemade front table extension pictured on the same brown Mark V. The regular gray Mark V with the hand wheel came from Charlotte NC.
http://picasaweb.google.com/robinson46176/ShopsmithStuff02#5331775136931595794
http://picasaweb.google.com/robinson46176/ShopsmithStuff02#5331775136931595794
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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mbcabinetmaker
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Mike
The picture you refer to is showing the table position for the drum sander to work. I had to grind the table to get it to lower into that position.
Mark
PS.... By the way, the SS hand wheel has a square hole in the middle. I did look for other sources but decided the square thing would be a problem.
The picture you refer to is showing the table position for the drum sander to work. I had to grind the table to get it to lower into that position.
Mark
PS.... By the way, the SS hand wheel has a square hole in the middle. I did look for other sources but decided the square thing would be a problem.
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For those who prefer to NOT cut up your SS, here is an alternative! http://shopsmith.net/forums/showthread.htm?t=3302
It does NOT have the lower all the way 'fix'(cutting relief in table), but does offer alternative ways to 'overcome' it.
Read ALL the posts!
It does NOT have the lower all the way 'fix'(cutting relief in table), but does offer alternative ways to 'overcome' it.
Read ALL the posts!
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Me thinks Mr. Robinson(Farmer/Francis) would be inclined to tell you that a crank handle with a round hole large enough to fit over the 3/8" square shaft and which has a set screw to tighten onto one of the flat sides would work just fine if you are willing to tolerate a slight bit of eccentricity (wobble)!mbcabinetmaker wrote:Mike
The picture you refer to is showing the table position for the drum sander to work. I had to grind the table to get it to lower into that position.
Mark
PS.... By the way, the SS hand wheel has a square hole in the middle. I did look for other sources but decided the square thing would be a problem.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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JPG
I have never been one to tolerate eccentricity!:D Actually I thought about that but didn't think I would have to grind as much out of the table as I did. I don't think it will present any problems. It is not in a stress point on the table. I may try to find a smaller hand wheel for my Mini with all the help from this post. The Grizzlys look good. I will figure out the center size to give the least amount of wobble.
Mark
I have never been one to tolerate eccentricity!:D Actually I thought about that but didn't think I would have to grind as much out of the table as I did. I don't think it will present any problems. It is not in a stress point on the table. I may try to find a smaller hand wheel for my Mini with all the help from this post. The Grizzlys look good. I will figure out the center size to give the least amount of wobble.
Mark
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9/16" would work(if they exist?)[they don't]. Grizzly prices look very reasonable. http://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2009/Main/246 Bore out to [0.53125 = 17/32]!mbcabinetmaker wrote:JPG
I have never been one to tolerate eccentricity!:D Actually I thought about that but didn't think I would have to grind as much out of the table as I did. I don't think it will present any problems. It is not in a stress point on the table. I may try to find a smaller hand wheel for my Mini with all the help from this post. The Grizzlys look good. I will figure out the center size to give the least amount of wobble.
Mark
4" 'wheel' would clear table.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange