Today in my shop (sanding table)

etc92guy · Post by **etc92guy** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:51 pm

Hmmmm.....I can see your point, but I think you'll get better performance with the baffles.

Please let us know your experiences. I won't debate at this point.

nuhobby · Post by **nuhobby** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:06 pm

reible,

Great photos which captured some lovely Sunday weather. I was probably driving up I-294 about the time you were doing your work. Had to do a bunch of family stuff at O'Hare Airport. Saw the Aurora signs and figured you were catching every ray of sun and breath of air out there!

reible · Post by **reible** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:33 pm

Hi,

I've had some questions (not posted here) about this and other projects, perhaps a few more are thinking but not asking so I hope this clears things up for anyone wondering.

Please remember that ideas I present are often concepts that I am building to fit a perceived notion I have of what I want. I present them mostly as ideas and most of the time the pictures tell the story. This post as well as the previous one with the tray are showing some concepts towards making the shopsmith more of a central part of the shop for more projects. The idea being more uses for the platform that is the shopsmith other then the common ones.

I do sketches but it is not very often I ever make up plans for a project like these. A lot of the sizes are based on what material have have I want to use up. So in general there are no plans and probable never will be. I will give you basic dimensions if you need them and maybe mention a few critical things like center line to center line numbers that I used upon request.

In this last couple of ideas I featured the grip clips which really make these ideas a snap . I have a bunch more ideas along the line of more grip clip projects as well as more ideas on using the shopsmith as a platform for more things. I hope sometime in the future to post a few more of those ideas once they are built.

You are welcome to use the designs in what ever way you want. Any part or all of it is as far as I am concerned public domain.

If you have any ideas along this same line put it together and by all means share. Your idea(s) maybe a lot better then mine and we can all benefit from more shared projects. I'd love to see a dozen or more people stick together a sanding table and presenting them here. (There is nothing very unique about my design other then the way I chose to utilize the shopsmith to be part of it).

Ed

reible · Post by **reible** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:43 pm

Hi,

I should remember to reset the clock one of these days, it is still an hour off as is my camera. It sure was a nice day and perfect for a shop project like this.

Since I've retired I don't go to O'Hare any more and to tell the truth I don't miss it one bit. When my Daughter and family come they use Midway and I don't have to even make that trip much of late, my boys take care of that.

Hope your day at least good enough for the visit to IL.

Ed

nuhobby wrote:reible,

Great photos which captured some lovely Sunday weather. I was probably driving up I-294 about the time you were doing your work. Had to do a bunch of family stuff at O'Hare Airport. Saw the Aurora signs and figured you were catching every ray of sun and breath of air out there!

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:22 am

Now that the clock has been mentioned, Does it stay out doors??

reible · Post by **reible** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:58 am

The clock vacations in the back yard for the summer, then comes in from the cold for the winter, sometimes taking an afternoon or two to watch me using the shopsmith in the spring and fall on nice days. It is an outdoor clock and we are not too sure how house broken it is.

Ed

JPG40504 wrote:Now that the clock has been mentioned, Does it stay out doors??

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:31 am

reible wrote:The clock vacations in the back yard for the summer, then comes in from the cold for the winter, sometimes taking an afternoon or two to watch me using the shopsmith in the spring and fall on nice days. It is an outdoor clock and we are not too sure how house broken it is.

Ed

Do Not take it in just after a Fall rain!:eek:

Gene Howe · Post by **Gene Howe** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:58 am

etc92guy wrote:
I do have Sketchup with me. If you need further clarification give us your dimensions and I can draw up what I said.

I'm "text to plan" challenged. If you could post the Sketchup plan for a 24X24 box, I'd appreciate it a lot.

Thanks,
Gene

paul269 · Post by **paul269** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:39 pm

nuhobby wrote:reible,

Great photos which captured some lovely Sunday weather. I was probably driving up I-294 about the time you were doing your work. Had to do a bunch of family stuff at O'Hare Airport. Saw the Aurora signs and figured you were catching every ray of sun and breath of air out there!

You could have waved when you passed me by the windmills.

reible · Post by **reible** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:58 am

After extensive testing and playing I found out a few things about my sanding table.

I got the new peg board with the smaller holes. The performance is still not where I hoped it would be.

This is were I started to attempt some testing. First no matter how much of the table top surface I covered I could not get the vacuum to starve or at least enough to hear. That means I have a leaky system. So long as it can find a place to get air it is happy but that does little to help it work better.

I also did some testing with paper combs, those that might have worked with electronic equipment this was a common way to see where air flow is and more important isn't. I had to go to a tissue type paper to see the results. A second area of testing has to do with smoke, and no I do not mean building a fire to see what happens... remember punk sticks??? We short of a source of them I used incense, pine seemed like a good choice.

I tried a lot of things, the idea of sloped sides was a flop, that perhaps is do to the vertical space or lack of in my design. The air flow was of course best at the point over the port but was lacking the heft even there. The placing of the workpiece over the center did as I expected with better air flow right next to the work piece.

Trying to make the box air tight will take some more effort, I think some aluminum tape like they use for auto repairs and some duct work might be the ticket. A whole new way of attaching the hose is needed, the sticking it in the hole despite the taper did not work well.

So after telling you all that and doing some more looking at the system I have convinced myself that the simple solution will be to open the hole to 4" and connect to my dust collector. After reviewing several design of boxes this large I think this is for the best.

Winter is closing in so I don't know if I will have time to make the changes and test anymore until spring but for those of you waiting to see if the vacuum was going to work, well sorry that is not looking good.

Ed