Under cabinet storage questions

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Nothing wrong with the proposed plan of action.

As an alternative, you may want to consider this one as well. http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/attachment.htm?attachmentid=1998&d=1220666738


I built one of these a few years ago. It has served well.

I realize this has been mentioned before, but Notice the toe space!

[tom_k/mo]

I REALLY like the looks of that cabinet, but I don't think it will mount to a unit that has aa Lift Assist Kit installed. I wonder if you mounted it on casters instead and took off the top mounting ears how far out from the front of the unit it would stick? I'll have to measure that tomorrow.

[swampgator]

MR. Clark,

Well, you did excellently. That is the one of which I was writing. Thanks for capturing the pics as I plan to copy them for my own cabinet. Somebody was very organized. Thanks for helping me.

The old swampgator in FL:)

[iclark]

MR. Clark,

Well, you did excellently. That is the one of which I was writing. Thanks for capturing the pics as I plan to copy them for my own cabinet. Somebody was very organized. Thanks for helping me.

The old swampgator in FL:)

you are quite welcome. I got lucky and was very happy to help.

please feel free to call me Ivan. (as I repress the urge to do a riff on an old comedy routine about "you doesn't has to call me Johnson"<g>)

Ivan

[swampgator]

Ivan,

I have not heard that comment in about 30 years. I well remember it but I began to associate with a different group of people and that sweet comment was lost.

While I think one has to be very careful on eBay and Craigs List, you can find some really neat ideas and some of them are very clever. This one just seemed both convenient and well organized. Whoeverr did that would really impress me. I still don't undestand the plywood wheel with the point like device, but when I get to that level, it may come naturally as do some other things. Your searching and timing was great as I could not find that unit on eBay anymore. So, you saved the day and it brought many views and comments.

I've got to post another question. Be safe.

swampgator in FL:)

[iclark]

I still don't understand the plywood wheel with the point like device, but when I get to that level, it may come naturally as do some other things.

my current best guess is that it is an indexing system (as suggested by others) that has enough friction from the pointer board to stop the spindle rotating for the operation that was being done.

I doubt that there would be enough friction for fluting an object in a chuck or in a spindle mount. it would probably have enough friction to draw longitudinal lines (perhaps to lay out carving areas) or to paint stripes as part of the finish (like they used to do for some tops).

as you indicated, having a chat with the owner that did all that would likely be a treat. I am still puzzling over how the shaft for that wheel is mounted to the spindle.

again, very glad that I could be of help.

Ivan

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Hi,

Not to distract to much from the subject but I have built the original storage unit from the original Hands On magazines plans as well as a few more. I have just a few comments about them in general that might be worth sharing.

The plans are a good starting place but they are only as good if you plan to store the same things that they were designed to store. If you happen to have the very same equipment then build it per the plans. If you happen to want to store other things you might do better getting creative on your own. Even then beware of changes coming along.

Even years ago I found I disliked storing heavy things down so low to the floor. As you age that dislike becomes a lot more then a dislike, you simply find it very hard to deal with.

I found that having a special place for everything means that things have to stay were they were designed to be. Well even shopsmith items change sizes and what once worked for the arbor/blade storage might not be so great when you upgrade to a 505/510/520 with longer arbors. Remember how happy you were with one disk sander until you got a second, third, forth, fifth... or got a conical disk??? Yep that under table storage area with all it nick and crannies, where do all those new pieces go??? I use to have one blade mounted... now I have 6, how could I have planned for that?

Version 1.0 lasted a short time and then I decided to take what I thought I knew and make version 1.1. As you know version 1.1 had none of the problems that version 1.0 had. Yea for a short while anyway. So was born version 1.3 and it had none of the problems that 1.2 had. So we are all up to Windows 7 now.... oh sorry wrong ad.

The next to the latest model is now under one of my shopsmiths but not attached. I cut the ears off and mounted it on wheels. And I never did finish that model but I might sometime soon. BTW it is mostly drawers.

The latest version is 4 cabinets of all drawers and the cabinets can be attached together or not (sort of like the now obsolete shopsmith set). They are each on their own wheels, they do not attach to the shopsmith and you can't make them anymore because the place that use to sell the metal drawers doesn't sell them anymore. As of now they are under my second shopsmith all unattached

The last shopsmith has two of the obsolete cabinets and a kerosene heater under it but that is yet another story.

Ultimate storage areas are only that way for the moment.

So a few things to think about are the down tubes of the main table, are they going to hit the storage area?

You have something 4 feet long (or so) and you want to mount it as low to the ground as you can... now you want to wheel it out of the shop/garage and you left a 1/2" free space to move it around... so how does it feel to drag the unit out as it scrapes most of the way??

As was mentioned, toe space, you don't want to have to lean in an uncomfortable position while working. That also goes for the position of the whole unit.

Access, if you set up for some ripping and you add a stand in front of the machine, can you still gain access to the drawers/shelves or open the doors without having to deal with moving other stuff?

If you have it so you can take the storage area off how easy is that, and you ask why would I even want to do that??? Moving, go to another site to work (sons, daughters, in-laws homes for projects). Or if you want to do like I did and cut the ears off... now I wish the cabinet were about an inch shorter to make it easier to get it or the shopsmith separated.

So give it your best shot and don't worry there is always Windows 7 or what is that leopard 11 or what ever for another day.

Ed

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my current best guess is that it is an indexing system (as suggested by others) that has enough friction from the pointer board to stop the spindle rotating for the operation that was being done.

I doubt that there would be enough friction for fluting an object in a chuck or in a spindle mount. it would probably have enough friction to draw longitudinal lines (perhaps to lay out carving areas) or to paint stripes as part of the finish (like they used to do for some tops).

as you indicated, having a chat with the owner that did all that would likely be a treat. I am still puzzling over how the shaft for that wheel is mounted to the spindle.

again, very glad that I could be of help.

Ivan

It looks like an arbor pokes through the center.

He may have just clamped the index board to the wheel. In the original pix(before I cropped & blew it up, the index appears to be mounted to and pivot on the hole plug(oiling access hole) in the belt cover.(looking again at the other pix, the index is on the front way tube, not the plug(optical illusion).

Her's the ful pix set http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... K:MEWAX:IT

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When I look at the picture it looks to me like that is either a universal arbor or perhaps the arbor from something like the ring master. That would hold the index wheel in place on the shaft quite well.

The second part could well have a line on it that the lines on the index wheel would line up with. The application of a wood clamp across the two locks it in place.

I believe some where way back when Nick posted a picture of how he clamps things using much the same method. I have no idea how to find that post but it wasn't long after he jointed us.

The issue of the PTWFE that came with my shopsmith has a design for a index wheel and pin, I could look that up and show it for education purposes but perhaps on another thread dealing with that subject.

Ed

It looks like an arbor pokes through the center.

He may have just clamped the index board to the wheel. In the original pix(before I cropped & blew it up, the index appears to be mounted to and pivot on the hole plug(oiling access hole) in the belt cover.

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The second part could well have a line on it that the lines on the index wheel would line up with. The application of a wood clamp across the two locks it in place.
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Ed

The end edge of the board is the 'index'. When the 'wheel' is rotated, the layout lines will be parallel with the end on that board. It is slightly out of position in the pix.