Greenie Gilmer Drive Question

[ajhicks1]

I traded for a Greenie (1956) with Gilmer drive. The Quill bearings were rough so I took the assembly apart. Bearings were located and my wife became very ill. Six weeks later I am trying to recall the order of assembly for the Quill shaft, mainly there are two bearings, the Gilmer drive pulley with two Allen set screws, two lock rings, a very thin washer and a very thick (1/4 inch) washer or spacer. The inner bearing has been reinstalled but I don't recall if the thin washer or spacer goes next between the Gilmer pulley and that bearing or between the outer bearing and the Gilmer pulley. I know, I laid all parts in order, but either I or someone else pushed them back on my bench and rearranged the order.

I have tried to get a manual and the one I obtained has the Poly V drive assembly pictured.

Can someone assist this old mind of mine?

[JPG]

I traded for a Greenie (1956) with Gilmer drive. The Quill bearings were rough so I took the assembly apart. Bearings were located and my wife became very ill. Six weeks later I am trying to recall the order of assembly for the Quill shaft, mainly there are two bearings, the Gilmer drive pulley with two Allen set screws, two lock rings, a very thin washer and a very thick (1/4 inch) washer or spacer. The inner bearing has been reinstalled but I don't recall if the thin washer or spacer goes next between the Gilmer pulley and that bearing or between the outer bearing and the Gilmer pulley. I know, I laid all parts in order, but either I or someone else pushed them back on my bench and rearranged the order.

I have tried to get a manual and the one I obtained has the Poly V drive assembly pictured.

Can someone assist this old mind of mine?

I find it 'interesting that the "inner bearing has been reinstalled" without all the rest. Typically the shaft and all its bearings etc. are assembled as a subassembly and the entire thing inserted into the headstock housung. cooling the bearings etc and heating the headstock makes that much easier.

Mike, Bill, Rob help him out!

[ajhicks1]

On the model I have, the Gilmer pulley with two Allen set screws is too large to come out of the bearing holes. I assumed the bearings and shaft were an assembly as well. From a few pictures I have seen of other posts, it appears as an assembly. The belt pulley is far too large to be extracted from the bearing holes. After I removed the shaft, pulley and bearings, I compared sizes from the outside and confirmed the pulley is too large. Perhaps my pulley is not appropriate for this Mark V, but the machine ran without an indication that the pulley was a problem.

Thanks for the post. Still wondering the proper order of pieces to reassemble.

[mickyd]

Hopefully this thread helps you out aj.
https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?p=32871#post32871.

Did you torque test your Gilmer to make sure it wasn't frozen? The thread explains the inspection and test procedure.

[mickyd]

Here's the single bearing quill assy.
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[ajhicks1]

Thanks for your pictures and post. My machine is older, without a clutch on the Gilmer drive. My Quill looks exactly as the one you pictured. My Gilmer pulley does not closely resemble the pulley with a clutch.

I viewed another post with pictures and that also shows the clutch model. I must have a model earlier than 1956.

How do I determine the production date from the serial number?

Still wondering the assembly order of the bearings and Gilmer pulley.

Merry Christmas to you all.

[mickyd]

Thanks for your pictures and post. My machine is older, without a clutch on the Gilmer drive. My Quill looks exactly as the one you pictured. My Gilmer pulley does not closely resemble the pulley with a clutch.

I viewed another post with pictures and that also shows the clutch model. I must have a model earlier than 1956.

How do I determine the production date from the serial number?

Still wondering the assembly order of the bearings and Gilmer pulley.

Merry Christmas to you all.

Post 1 of this pdf file https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3518

Do you have a photo of your parts? As far as I know, the Gilmer I have is the first design in a Mark 5. Mine is a Nov 1955 model.

[JPG]

Thanks for your pictures and post. My machine is older, without a clutch on the Gilmer drive. My Quill looks exactly as the one you pictured. My Gilmer pulley does not closely resemble the pulley with a clutch.

I viewed another post with pictures and that also shows the clutch model. I must have a model earlier than 1956.

How do I determine the production date from the serial number?

Still wondering the assembly order of the bearings and Gilmer pulley.

Merry Christmas to you all.

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/serialnumber.htm

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/faq/markv.htm

Scroll down on the second link.

[ajhicks1]

Thanks for the posted links. My model is 1956. I will attempt to provide pictures.

[ajhicks1]

The Gilmer pulley issue has been resolved. However, several of you have not seen a pulley without the clutch feature. The pictures I post show that an aluminum pulley constructed of one solid piece with stamped numbers from a production run exists for the Greenies. The pulley is larger in diameter than the clutch models which does not allow the pulley to be removed through the bearing holes.

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