Oneida Dust Deputy

[heathicus]

When floating drywall, use a wet rag instead of sandpaper. No dust! When my dad and I were building his house, he put sheet rock on the ceilings in several rooms. The dust was killing us until someone suggested we use a wet rag. Worked perfectly.

[Ed in Tampa]

I have used a wet rag on the final coat but in this case removing the wall paper put all the water on this dry wall it ever needed. I was actually concerned about the latex paint.

My wife hung the paper years ago and we are sure she painted and sized the walls however the paper would not come off without getting it so wet that the dry wall paper itself was wet.

This was case where sanding skim coat, sanding slim coat and final sanding were required. Nasty job! Final coat was done using a flashlight from the side to show any imperfections. Hours of work but the results are fantastic.

[SDSSmith]

Oneida Air Systems has a little cyclone and collection barrel that acts as a pre-filter for a 'shop-vac' type dust collection system. Does anyone have one or have an opinion that they would like to express on it?

Found this from the summer of '09:
https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3707&highlight=dust+deputy

[flashbacpt]

To answer your original question, I purchased one three months ago, and I am very pleased with it!
Before, when my shop vac (Craftsman's) was full, I dreaded the cleaning process, which included having to clean the filter. Needless to say, the Dust Deputy eliminated all this. It was a dirty process!
I have filled the Dust Deputy's bucket four times, and my filter is still very clean! A simple pulling off the top, and dumping the contents of the bucket takes seconds.
One of the other positives is that your suction power remains strong as the bucket is filled. Before, one would lose some suction as the Vac was getting full.
I am planning on making a cart, with wheels, to hold both the vac and Dust Deputy. There is a plan for this in one of the recent wood working magazines, but I have "misplaced" my copy.

John
FlashbacPT

[fjimp]

I have the Oneida unit on order from Rockler. Today I noticed a great plan on pages 36 thru 39 of Shop Notes Vol 19 Issue 109 for the Oneida and a shop vac. According to my bride I can never achieve total dust elimination so I will add one more step. Jim

[fjimp]

I have used a wet rag on the final coat but in this case removing the wall paper put all the water on this dry wall it ever needed. I was actually concerned about the latex paint.

My wife hung the paper years ago and we are sure she painted and sized the walls however the paper would not come off without getting it so wet that the dry wall paper itself was wet.

This was case where sanding skim coat, sanding slim coat and final sanding were required. Nasty job! Final coat was done using a flashlight from the side to show any imperfections. Hours of work but the results are fantastic.

As an asthmatic I learned years ago that sanding or smoothing drywall works far better with a wet sponge. Virtually no dust and much cheaper than abrasives. Jim

[wood4fun]

I read thru most of the threads on dust collection (e.g., Bill Pentz), dust extraction and air filtration alternatives about a year ago, and gravitated toward a shop-vac one-machine-at-a-time solution once I stumbled on Phil Thien's site:

http://www.cgallery.com/jpthien/cy.htm

His looks at first glance like the Rockler/Woodcraft 2-port lids, but the key to its effectiveness is the deck (actually a baffle) that's hung several inches below the lid. 2/3 of its periphery doesn't touch the can, so as particles spin around the can above the deck, they are flung around, and fall off the edge of the deck into the bottom of the can and aren't swept back up because the deck separates the cyclonic flow above it from the accumulated dust pile below. The site has all the info you need to make your own separator for peanuts.

So I purchased a shiny metal trash can, a 2'x4' piece of plywood, and some plastic elbows from HD, and two 2.5" shop-vac hose adapters from WC, used some threaded rod and nuts I had, and in an hour or so I had a brand-spankin' new dust separator that I've been using ever since. It works great. My shopvac has a Clearstream (Gore) HEPA filter. There's a whole forum on Phil's site on which innumerable people show all sorts of implementations in all sizes and for multiple purposes, commenting on their results.

My only two regrets are:

• The shiny metal trash can is a bit too flimsy for the vacuum suction pressure, so when I vacuum the floor, if the nozzle gets blocked, the can sides pucker in with a noise that sounds like a bowling ball rattling around in there. No harm done since it unpuckers when you shut the vac off; it just amuses my kids upstairs. Apparently a cardboard drum would be a better choice. See Phil's forum for other options.
• I made the top out of plywood, rather than clear plastic...I'd love to see what's really going on in there. Who knows...by now there's probably a post on Phil's forum showing a video thru a clear top.

Mine is certainly not a full-scale shop dust-collection system, but is effective for the same purposes as the Dust Deputy on a shop vac, and as you can see on Phil's forum, people are putting Thien Separators in front of dust-collection systems with very good results.

Anyway, in retrospect, I'm happy to quickly build these sorts of devices inexpensively, so I can spend $ on woodworking tools, wood and hardware instead. This separator works well.

-W4F

[mmorris]

I bought a Dust Deputy this summer and am very pleased. It does as advertised; the shop vac filter stays very clean. I bought a new shop vac at the same time and built an enclosed roller cart for the vac with the dust deputy mounted on top. The whole setup is now both efficient and QUIET! I will use this setup for small tools and the shopsmith, as I have a 4" dust collection system set up for all the other power tools.

[fjimp]

My dust deputy arrived Friday. I had a little time to mess with it yesterday and became frustrated with the sizes of the hose intake and out take ports. I tried to buy an adapter to use on the out port to the shop vac and had little success. When I arrived home and explored further discovered the small diameter hose that comes from Fein with their vacs is easily removed and replaced with the standard hose from the DC3300 and the dust deputy. Today I also found sufficient 3/4" plywood in my left over wood supply to build the handy Cart illustrated in Shop Notes Volume 19 Issue 109 (the current issue). I picked up the wheels and hinges required and will start on the cart in a few days. I am really tired of the finger healing process. Grass grows faster than tissue heals. Oh yeah it's winter that line doesn't hold water. Oh well. Jim

[Splinters N Chips]

To answer your original question, I purchased one three months ago, and I am very pleased with it!
Before, when my shop vac (Craftsman's) was full, I dreaded the cleaning process, which included having to clean the filter. Needless to say, the Dust Deputy eliminated all this. It was a dirty process!
I have filled the Dust Deputy's bucket four times, and my filter is still very clean! A simple pulling off the top, and dumping the contents of the bucket takes seconds.
One of the other positives is that your suction power remains strong as the bucket is filled. Before, one would lose some suction as the Vac was getting full.
I am planning on making a cart, with wheels, to hold both the vac and Dust Deputy. There is a plan for this in one of the recent wood working magazines, but I have "misplaced" my copy.

John
FlashbacPT

John, I have purchased a Dust Deputy. I am very pleased with it and after reading your review above, I noticed you mentioned a plan for a cart for the cycolne and the shop vac. Did you ever locate the magazine with the plan? Please share. Thanks Lee