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The quill feed was sort of stiff on my 500, so I decided to remove it and the pinion to clean them. (Found out later I didn't need to remove the pinion to clean it, but that's hindsight). After cleaning both parts up, I went to put the quill feed pinion back into the headstock. . All went well until I tried to lock down the quill. Seems I've lost the wire retaining clip (513034). I thought the loss inocuous, untill I tried to tighten down the quill. Even though the spring washer is there, the lock handle "bottoms out" against the headstock housing and doesn't hold tight. What is the purpose of the wire clip, but more importantly, do I have to have it installed to get the quill to lock correctly? I'm thinking of using a retaining ring if I need the part installed because I can't find a suitable wire clip locally.
Any input or insights would be appreciated.
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Oh SHi-! I know the feeling over small metal parts that get lost! Sorry, I can't help with an answer to your question, but maybe there is another solution.

We all need a magnet big enough to locate lost metal parts. I use an old large speaker magnet (about 3" in diameter), fastened to a wooden pole. I've seen factory made magnets like this at Home Depot or Harbor freight. http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xr5/R-202025668/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

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I do not recognize the part number, but if it is a spring clip that is on the feed stop side, its purpose is to provide a stop for the feed stop clamp to push against.

If the quill lock is slipping, I would suspect the domed(spherical) washer(501317) is not installed correctly. This washer is pushed against the internal casting 'ear' by the keyed sleeve which is moved by the wing nut/spring washer.
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JPG40504 wrote:I do not recognize the part number, but if it is a spring clip that is on the feed stop side, its purpose is to provide a stop for the feed stop clamp to push against.

If the quill lock is slipping, I would suspect the domed(spherical) washer(501317) is not installed correctly. This washer is pushed against the internal casting 'ear' by the keyed sleeve which is moved by the wing nut/spring washer.
If it's the doomed washer, it could have dropped down inside the motor pan when the quill was removed.

This 2nd photo down in this threadshows where it should be.
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Post by JPG »

I do not recognize the part number, but it is a spring clip that is on the feed stop side, its purpose is to provide a stop for the feed stop clamp to push against.

If the quill lock is slipping, I would suspect the domed(spherical) washer(501317) is not installed correctly. This washer is pushed against the internal casting 'ear' by the keyed sleeve which is moved by the wing nut/spring washer.

This may shed some light!
https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?p=40959&postcount=1
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Post by heathicus »

mickyd wrote:If it's the doomed washer, it could have dropped down inside the motor pan when the quill was removed.
If the washer is doomed, by definition nothing can be done to save it.

Mike Barnwell, you might get some insight from the "Shopsmith Reborn" series of videos Nick did as part of the Sawdust Sessions. In Part 4 (link below), Nick explains rebuilding the quill feed pinion and goes through disassembly and reassembly.

http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... rn_Pt4.htm
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The video did it. I was putting the domed washer in the wrong place. Funny thing is that I watched that same episode last weekend trying to figure out my screw up, and completely missed the part about putting your hand inside to hold the washer in place while insert the transverse assembly.
Thank you all for the help. My baby is up and running like its' supposed to and the quill lock works as advertised.
Mike B.
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