10 E Question(s)

mickyd · Post by **mickyd** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:43 pm

JPG40504 wrote:5"x15" x 4(count) 1/8" landscaping 'bar stock'. It was rusted and painted. ............ Will investigate after legs are 'done'.

If ya want, I can post a pix of setup.

Love to see pics.

Too bad you don't have sheet metal anode. Steal a pot lid from the kitchen.

I think the tiny surface area of the anodes and the rate at which they load up is a problem.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:01 pm

mickyd wrote:Love to see pics.

Too bad you don't have sheet metal anode. Steal a pot lid from the kitchen. I think the tiny surface area of the anodes and the rate at which they load up is a problem.

5" X 15" X 4PIECES X2 SIDES = 600 IN² = 4 FT² IS 'TINY'?

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:10 pm

Tiny anodes:

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The setup:

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------------------------ · Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:34 pm

Is she boiling?? Remember that the electrolysis is line of sight. I had better luck with my parts surrounded by the sacrificial anode. None of my chargers cycled on and off. They just needed a jump to get started. I never tried splitting my negative, perhaps that is why it is so slow??

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:54 am

mark-b wrote:Is she boiling?? Remember that the electrolysis is line of sight. I had better luck with my parts surrounded by the sacrificial anode. None of my chargers cycled on and off. They just needed a jump to get started. I never tried splitting my negative, perhaps that is why it is so slow??

Actually it is going around corners and slightly on the back side. The temperature has not been very high either.

The bottom half is done(that is where the major rust was). They are flipped upside down for paint removal mainly and I expect to be 'finished tomorrow.

It is the amount of bubbling what I question. It is there, but not as vigorous as I expected.

mickyd · Post by **mickyd** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:50 am

JPG40504 wrote:5" X 15" X 4PIECES X2 SIDES = 600 IN² = 4 FT² IS 'TINY'?

OMG!!!:eek: I saw it as .5" not 5", assuming it was 1/2" round stock. I had a speck of schtuff on my monitor that looked like a decimal point.

You've got plenty of area in you set up. The anode surface condition with the paint may impede. The anode rust looks minimal.

Maybe there just wasn't enough rust on the legs get the heavy bubbling action like I did when I did my parts? If you have something real rusty, you could test out your setup.

mickyd · Post by **mickyd** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:57 am

mark-b wrote:Is she boiling?? Remember that the electrolysis is line of sight. I had better luck with my parts surrounded by the sacrificial anode. None of my chargers cycled on and off. They just needed a jump to get started. I never tried splitting my negative, perhaps that is why it is so slow??

Your using the term boiling to describe the bubbling, right? The bath should remain cool else too much amperage is being used, in turn heating the water. The bubbling action in the bath is caused by the release hydrogen gas, not heat.

------------------------ · Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:38 am

Hey Mike!
Yes- boiling was meant to refer to the tiny bubbles coming off the parts being de-rusted. And you are correct the bath doesnt get hot/warm. The one thing that I did that seemed to have the greatest impact, was to insure that I had a really good connection on my clips. It seemed that if only the tips of the teeth made contact, the process was a little slow. Also, I noticed that if a porion of my part was closer to the anode, that was the area that had the most action, electricity followed the path of least resistance.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:22 pm

mark-b wrote:Hey Mike!
Yes- boiling was meant to refer to the tiny bubbles coming off the parts being de-rusted. And you are correct the bath doesnt get hot/warm. The one thing that I did that seemed to have the greatest impact, was to insure that I had a really good connection on my clips. It seemed that if only the tips of the teeth made contact, the process was a little slow. Also, I noticed that if a porion of my part was closer to the anode, that was the area that had the most action, electricity followed the path of least resistance.

It more closely resembles 'simmering' than boiling.

In my case due to the 'double' action and the large surface area, methinks my limiting factor is the charger(cycling on/off).

In any event, I will be priming it late this pm.

Just for kicks, I may hook up a car battery to it to see if 'simmering' increases.

------------------------ · Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:09 pm

JPG40504 wrote:
Just for kicks, I may hook up a car battery to it to see if 'simmering' increases.

When I jumped my system, my jumper box had little to no charge. I would be VERY SCARED to hook up a functioning car battery to my pot. A charger limits your amps! A car battery could give you 800+ amps at contact:eek: I dont know for sure, but an instant short like that could explode your battery???? Please be safe!