Conical Disk - 4 Degrees???

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keakap
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mickyd wrote:My conical disc is also just shy of 3-1/2°. Wixey just resolved just how shy. Where this comes into play is obviosly setting the table angle. I use a square to set it perpendicular the actual angle. If however you setting the table based on an assumed angle of 4°, it would be wise to verify it.
Being an old (that is, consistent) "3+" degree proponent (not sorry I brought it up), I'd only add here that I had a wee bit of trouble getting a good reading (digital level & Square process) until I firmly pinched the square's blade to the disc,as pictured. Due to air humidity/quality issues when mounted, my paper is not solidly fastened (imagine a layer of cottage cheese between it and the disc), and unless the paper's not forced against the disc the reading can be off as much as a quarter of a degree (horrors!). (Eyeballing square-to-disc used to be imprecise as you can imagine, prior to this discovery.)
[Yes, of course I should remover the paper, clean the disc, take all to an air-conditioned room and reinstall the paper. But I'd rather spend hours trying to figure out why it takes me five minutes to align the table.]

By the wayside, if I align the Square's blade more vertically precisely, the reading is 3.3 degrees.[ATTACH]8880[/ATTACH]

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I can't help but hear Emily Litella (Gilda Radner) and Jane Curtin in the back of my head:

"What is all this fuss I hear about comical disks?"

"Emily, that's CONICAL, not comical."

"Never mind."
Paul

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I love my comical disk... er.. I mean conical!!!

Last night I started working on all the rails and stiles... actually just the stiles... for my kitchen redo. Well - I want them all about 3 inches wide. I cut them all on my table saw (stand alone - I think most folks agree the SS is not too good for sawing - esp resawing)... well it's cherry and the TS burns them - so usually I just take em over to my jointer and a couple swipes the the burn is off...

Well - I started thinking "What if the changed wide at one end or the other - how can I be sure they remain 3 inches top to bottom... 36" end to end?"

I looked at my handy SS Planer on the floor... Hmmm... if I bunch a few all together I can fit up to 4" in the planer (trust me - I've pushed it ALL the way to 4, and slightly higher by removing the metal top guard thing - kids don't do this at home!)

The planer is good, but I've been getting SNIPE at the front and back of pieces I send through - haven't had time to troubleshoot that. Plus, my blades need to sharpened because i get lines through the pieces that I have to go sand off afterward...

Wait... sand off... OH - Hi there newly beloved conical disk sander thing-a-ma-bob!!!!

Set it up in seconds... well - cuz it was on there from being the last thing I did on my SS. And about 1/2 hour later was done with 44 Stiles! No more sanding required - and every piece EXACTLY the same width!

Love it - I'll keep looking to it for more stuff... recently I (still) have been working on a mothers day keep sake box for the baby - The lid I wanted tapers on the edges... just changed the angle on the table and ran through the conical disk a few times... I suppose I could have done it through the table saw... but I only wanted a slight taper... make you look closer to see it!!!

So - my SS is slowly becoming one of the most expensive sanders and planers a person can have!!! HAHA - I do plan to use the drill press when I need something that big... and bores... also to for some lathe stuff...

Why doesn't SS make the drum sander thicknesser thing instead of supplying plans??
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Mine is about 3.4 degrees.

Today I used my conical disk for the first time. I've got to learn a bit about making proper jigs, but WOW - I'm so surprised Shopsmith is the only company making these things.

To be honest, when I first read the descriptions I thought it was a near worthles variation of the flat disk, useful only in some highly specialized circumstances. Not any more!

Now my current question to self is whether to make a saw insert for it as described by SDSSmith, a drill-mode jig as shown in the sawdust sessions, or both!
Paul

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Also: 3D printers, and a homebrew CNC
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