New Design?

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Dick, in Post #22 said look for an announcement next week (of when we would see the Power Pro). He didn't say he was told the company will be releasing the Power Pro next week!

Since we are all making guesses -----

Maybe the announcement will be asking for testers.That would be interesting!

Maybe the announcement will tell they have given up on releasing this year.Hope that is wrong!

Maybe, as we hope, it will be available soon.Right on!

Really, what is left to 'announce' other than its availability for purchase?????

[mikelst]

Really, what is left to 'announce' other than its availability for purchase?????

A Fathers Day Sale.....

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A Fathers Day Sale.....

They done did that last week!;)

[robinson46176]

We just might be able to get a retrofit kit for just a few dollars more than the cost of a replacement motor and I just might be inline to get my own.

Think about it. A new motor, two new pulleys, maybe a new idler shaft and a new poly-v belt. Maybe a new motor pan.

Don't forget the control buttons and electronics board. The little board on my pellet stove is $200 and it is extremely simple...

[tryinhard]

I think the upgrade will be more than just a new motor and control panel.

1. With the speed control 'pork shop' mechanism being removed, what will hold the idler/control sheeves in position firm enough to take a belt traveling 10,000 rpm? So some sort of modification to the idler shaft will be required.

2. Is the single v-belt going to work well under additional torque from 10K rpm? When I took apart my headstock that has had very little use since I had a factor work-over conducted, there was no sawdust, but a good deal of black dust from wearing of the v-belt. A poly-v seems more suited.

3. If all the sheeves are not removed, are there any additional issues with them traveling at 10,000 than at 5200 rpm?

If they do switch to a poly-v on the lower drive, some new additional mechanism will need to be installed for belt tensioning.

And, tool-hunters comment about whether all the bearings in all the different Mark 5/V machines--from greenies and brownies through greys--will handle the new speeds is right on.

So, I don't see it being easy or "relatively inexpensive."

Mike

[JPG]

I think the upgrade will be more than just a new motor and control panel.

1. With the speed control 'pork shop' mechanism being removed, what will hold the idler/control sheeves in position firm enough to take a belt traveling 10,000 rpm? So some sort of modification to the idler shaft will be required.

2. Is the single v-belt going to work well under additional torque from 10K rpm? When I took apart my headstock that has had very little use since I had a factor work-over conducted, there was no sawdust, but a good deal of black dust from wearing of the v-belt. A poly-v seems more suited.

3. If all the sheeves are not removed, are there any additional issues with them traveling at 10,000 than at 5200 rpm?

If they do switch to a poly-v on the lower drive, some new additional mechanism will need to be installed for belt tensioning.

And, tool-hunters comment about whether all the bearings in all the different Mark 5/V machines--from greenies and brownies through greys--will handle the new speeds is right on.

So, I don't see it being easy or "relatively inexpensive."

Mike

How many of the posts in this thread have you read????? Check out #1 for starters. There will be NO sheaves. There will be NO v-belt(other than an additional poly-v). Two bearing quill will be mandatory. Only the sand cast greenies are 'not eligible' although all gilmer unique parts must be replaced.

Therefore for 'most of us', = New motor/controls/idlershaft(if water pump bearing currently)/(new quill if not now 2 bearing)/some wiring changes. May need to drill some holes, but I expect that is about it.

The conclusions above are the result of more than this thread only.

Time will tell (hopefully soon)!

[dusty]

I think the upgrade will be more than just a new motor and control panel.

1. With the speed control 'pork shop' mechanism being removed, what will hold the idler/control sheeves in position firm enough to take a belt traveling 10,000 rpm? So some sort of modification to the idler shaft will be required. There appears to be a grooved pulley (for a poly-v belt) that will be added there. That pulley could have a set screw to lock it to the shaft.

2. Is the single v-belt going to work well under additional torque from 10K rpm? When I took apart my headstock that has had very little use since I had a factor work-over conducted, there was no sawdust, but a good deal of black dust from wearing of the v-belt. A poly-v seems more suited. It appears to me that the motor drive belt will become a poly-v.

3. If all the sheeves are not removed, are there any additional issues with them traveling at 10,000 than at 5200 rpm? Don't understand the question but it seems that speed ranges would have been a design requirement ultimately solved by the new pulley/belt arrangements, the speed control and the variable speed motor.

If they do switch to a poly-v on the lower drive, some new additional mechanism will need to be installed for belt tensioning.

And, tool-hunters comment about whether all the bearings in all the different Mark 5/V machines--from greenies and brownies through greys--will handle the new speeds is right on. What old bearings. The motor bearings will be new, the idler shaft bearings will be new and the quill may need to be upgraded (maybe), the drive sleeve bearing ($100.00+) and all that is left is.

Easy for me to say. I have a new Drive Sleeve Assembly and I am just hoping that there is no bearing change there.

So, I don't see it being easy or "relatively inexpensive."

Mike

I guess this all depends on what you call expensive. After seeing Toolhunter's Drawing of the new headstock I have adjusted my cost expectations way down. All this having been said, I guess I will just wait and see. The conjecture will do nothing more than get me excited about something I might not be able to afford.

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Anyone besides me notice the silence from a certain member who resides in Illinois and frequently makes trips to the UP(north of wisconsin)?:D

[dusty]

Anyone besides me notice the silence from a certain member who resides in Illinois and frequently makes trips to the UP(north of wisconsin)?:D

He hasn't been all that silent. Now you might say his conversations have been somewhat selective (which may make him one of the smarter members of this group).

[JPG]

He hasn't been all that silent. Now you might say his conversations have been somewhat selective (which may make him one of the smarter members of this group).

Agreed!!!!!!!