Dust Collection in Table Saw Mode

john_001 · Post by **john_001** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:10 pm

I finally got around to hooking my dust collector to the SS table saw setup. There are two 2 1/2" ports on the lower saw guards. They don't seem to be very effective. I still get a lot of sawdust everywhere. Is this a common issue, or am I missing something? I'm using a 3/4 hp Delta two stage dust collector.

fiatben · Post by **fiatben** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:36 pm

Somewhere on here is a LONG thread regarding this very topic. Maybe one of the guys involved in that can link you to it quickly. I remember they worked on baffling under the table, etc. and made a very efficient system.

SDSSmith · Post by **SDSSmith** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:00 pm

fiatben wrote:Somewhere on here is a LONG thread regarding this very topic. Maybe one of the guys involved in that can link you to it quickly. I remember they worked on baffling under the table, etc. and made a very efficient system.

I believe that thread was Dusty's quest to reduce dust from his 520. I believe that John is working with the newer style 500 lower guard with the two ports. My recollection of that system is that it was far from perfect. I think the system on the 510/520 is an improvement but it still 'leaks'. ]

wannabewoodworker · Post by **wannabewoodworker** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:36 pm

Speaking of dust collection does anyone have the jointer dust port on their jointer??? I don't have it and the jointer really makes quite a mess when i use it. i was thinking of ordering the dust port for my jointer but if others have it and it doesn't work very well like the saw dust collection than I will just live with the mess.

beeg · Post by **beeg** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:59 pm

I have the jointer dust port and it works well. IF I let the space under the infeed table fill up with chips.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:12 am

beeg wrote:I have the jointer dust port and it works well. IF I let the space under the infeed table fill up with chips.

Yes - IF I let the space under the infeed table fill up with chips - does it work better or not at all?

wannabewoodworker: I find that it works fine but you must connect the dust collector to it. Something that I often do not do.

It works less efficiently on heavier cuttings.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:29 am

fiatben wrote:Somewhere on here is a LONG thread regarding this very topic. Maybe one of the guys involved in that can link you to it quickly. I remember they worked on baffling under the table, etc. and made a very efficient system.

This was done on a 510/520 but the principle is the same.

https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=6063&highlight=collector

I suggest that you set your tablesaw up and blow all the sawdust off then rip several pieces of scrap and look for where the unwanted sawdust collects. Sit down on a bucket stool at study where it "must be coming from".

The dust collector when mated with the table has a lot of holes (leaks). I find that most of these are there to facilitate the reconfiguration process when changing modes. If you setup in the table saw mode, you can make the Mark V dust collection system near perfect. But then when you change modes, you may find that what you have done interferes with reconfiguration.

http://www.youtube.com/dustywoodworker#p/u/3/qO97xhst6wA

I am working on a dual hose system but haven't gotten far enough along to discuss details. I really miss the fabrication shop that I had access to when I was working. An ideal turned into prototype over night with those guys.

beeg · Post by **beeg** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:03 am

dusty wrote:Yes - IF I let the space under the infeed table fill up with chips - does it work better or not at all?

It works much better.

Gene Howe · Post by **Gene Howe** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:28 am

My 500 uses the dual port collection gadget. It's better than "nuttin", but it's far from complete. It's also a pain when changing blades and functions.
It appears that an overhead guard/collector would help. I tossed the SS guard many moons ago.

Anyhow, a well placed plastic tub from Walmart keeps most of the dust off the floor.

BTW, This remote is a real "turn on".

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_electronics?_encoding=UTF8&node=172282&field-brandtextbin=SuperSwitch

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sun May 29, 2011 1:28 pm

Gene Howe wrote:My 500 uses the dual port collection gadget. It's better than "nuttin", but it's far from complete. It's also a pain when changing blades and functions.
It appears that an overhead guard/collector would help. I tossed the SS guard many moons ago.
Anyhow, a well placed plastic tub from Walmart keeps most of the dust off the floor.
BTW, This remote is a real "turn on". http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_electronics?_encoding=UTF8&node=172282&field-brandtextbin=SuperSwitch

Gene, if you still have that guard (the one that you tossed) let me know. I am experimenting with some modifications to improve the efficiency of the Shopsmith dust collection system.

I have improved the system to the point where I can report the system collects over 95% of the dust generated when ripping. Cross cutting is another matter.

If I need to tilt the table - I also have some shortcomings yet to eliminate.

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