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Table thickness?

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I've had my Dad's "greenie" for about 15 years and decided to buy a newer version (1980+) off eBay. The machine is in great shape, but when I looked carefully at the rip fence I noticed that it didn't clamp over the back edge of the table because the table appear to be too thick. I tried my old rip fence with the same result--and they both clamp fine on the old table. Did Shopsmith change the thickness of the tables slightly on some model years (it appears to be about 1/8")?

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jemcdon wrote:I've had my Dad's "greenie" for about 15 years and decided to buy a newer version (1980+) off eBay. The machine is in great shape, but when I looked carefully at the rip fence I noticed that it didn't clamp over the back edge of the table because the table appear to be too thick. I tried my old rip fence with the same result--and they both clamp fine on the old table. Did Shopsmith change the thickness of the tables slightly on some model years (it appears to be about 1/8")?

Thanks!
I suspect that I know what has happened but I'll reserve my guesses until I know more about what you had and what you now have that does not seem to fit.

From infeed edge to outfeed edge - how long are your tables.
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Dusty did he acquire a nice 510 or 520 model thinking it to be a 500????
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wannabewoodworker wrote:Dusty did he acquire a nice 510 or 520 model thinking it to be a 500????
It sorta sounds that way except for the discussion about both rip fences fitting the old table.

Someone more knowledgeable than I about the 500 tables and fences needs to jump in here. That person should not be hard to find because I know very, very little about the 500.

I know the tables are smaller.:rolleyes:
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jemcdon wrote:I've had my Dad's "greenie" for about 15 years and decided to buy a newer version (1980+) off eBay. The machine is in great shape, but when I looked carefully at the rip fence I noticed that it didn't clamp over the back edge of the table because the table appear to be too thick. I tried my old rip fence with the same result--and they both clamp fine on the old table. Did Shopsmith change the thickness of the tables slightly on some model years (it appears to be about 1/8")?

Thanks!
Pictures would help. I have a Greenie and a 87 model Mark V 500 and my rip fence's will work on both of them. The only thing that won't work on both tables is the miter slot table extension.
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I have checked three different 'vintages'(Greenie, Goldie, Gray) and both the rip fences and the tables are the same(on the back edge).

The back lip is 1" but has a chamfer on the bottom edge.

All three of these fences are not the 'newer' 500 fence that has the t-slot on top.

Make sure the offsetting screws are fully retracted in the front casting of the fence(s).

Need pix to see just what is the 'situation' with yours.
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wingrider wrote:Pictures would help. I have a Greenie and a 87 model Mark V 500 and my rip fence's will work on both of them. The only thing that won't work on both tables is the miter slot table extension.

Is that extension a greenie vintage? IIUC the later version fits both the greenie extruded lip and the later extrusion lip.
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Hi,

Thanks for all the replies to my question. I've only used one Shopsmith before (for about 50 years), but the new one I bought looks the same (including the table). I'm not sure if my pictures will show up--I don't see them in the preview.

Thanks, Jim
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jemcdon wrote:Hi,

Thanks for all the replies to my question. I've only used one Shopsmith before (for about 50 years), but the new one I bought looks the same (including the table). I'm not sure if my pictures will show up--I don't see them in the preview.

Thanks, Jim

The pix are fine.

Now tell us 'what is what'?

You indicated you had 'differences' between old/new.

Both pix are 'normal'. That is the way it clamps.
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The way it clamps?

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Wow! Then there's something wrong with the old table (that my Dad and I used for 50+ years), because the clamp goes completely over the table on the old Shopsmith. If this is the way its supposed to be I guess I'm content...

Thanks, Jim
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