Possibility of Mark V under table routing

gmlieb · Post by **gmlieb** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:37 pm

I am trying to figure out a way that I can convert my Mark V to be able to do under table routing.

As far as I can see all that I would need is the ability to tilt it the other way like the Mark 7 has.

Any ideas or concerns.

Thanks for the help.

jcraigie · Post by **jcraigie** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:37 pm

You can buy the mark 7 upgrade kit. That is one of the purposes of it, to allow undertable routing.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:32 pm

gmlieb wrote:I am trying to figure out a way that I can convert my Mark V to be able to do under table routing.

As far as I can see all that I would need is the ability to tilt it the other way like the Mark 7 has.

Any ideas or concerns.

Thanks for the help.

1) remove way tube tie bar.

2) remove headstock.

3) remove table carriage

4) mount headstock reversed(quill to left/open end).

5) mount table carriage(normal orientation)

6) reattach tie rod

7) tighten locks and raise to vertical.

The headstock will be under the table with the quill facing up.

Be mindful of cutter rotation direction and feed direction.

P.S. Table 'controls' and motor switch will be on opposite sides.

algale · Post by **algale** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:04 pm

[quote="JPG40504"]1) remove way tube tie bar.

2) remove headstock.

3) remove table carriage

4) mount headstock reversed(quill to left/open end).

5) mount table carriage(normal orientation)

6) reattach tie rod

7) tighten locks and raise to vertical.

The headstock will be under the table with the quill facing up.]

Dang it! Now I have to find another used shopsmith and set it up this way so I can do under table routing and shaping!

damagi · Post by **damagi** » Wed May 18, 2011 5:43 pm

JPG40504 wrote: Be mindful of cutter rotation direction and feed direction.

Thats a pretty important one...don't want to be running a router bit in the wrong direction.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed May 18, 2011 10:07 pm

damagi wrote:Thats a pretty important one...don't want to be running a router bit in the wrong direction.

I agree! Perhaps I was too subtle! I did not want to resurrect the 'climb' cutting discussion.

I mentioned it because the Mark5/V will be running the opposite direction as a Mark VII/7. Therefore the feed direction is reversed from Mark VII/7 instructions.

Location of the fence is VERY relevant also!

gilamonster · Post by **gilamonster** » Wed May 18, 2011 10:20 pm

or, just buy the Speed Increaser.

without it, does the Shopsmith run fast enough for smooth routing anyway?

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed May 18, 2011 11:22 pm

gilamonster wrote:or, just buy the Speed Increaser.

without it, does the Shopsmith run fast enough for smooth routing anyway?

People were doing so a long time before the 'speed increaser' was created.

Since then the hand held router craze and later table mounted routers have arrived.

Yes the slower speed requires slower feed rates, but it will get the job done.

Lotsa 'router stuff now is actually shaping anyway.

SDSSmith · Post by **SDSSmith** » Thu May 19, 2011 10:34 am

damagi wrote:Thats a pretty important one...don't want to be running a router bit in the wrong direction.

For standard router bits, there is no issue with the standard Mark V headstock turning a router bit mounted on the quill in the wrong direction. The quill shaft rotates counterclockwise as do standard routers (looking at the end of the bit/shaft). The issue is feed direction (always a consideration with routers) and feed rate. The configuration as jpg describes is akin to a standard router table. The fence position would be behind the bit as it would on a standard table, feeding right to left in front of the bit. The feed rate would be 'very slow'.