What do I need to do first as a new owner of a Greenie?

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What do I need to do first as a new owner of a Greenie?

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Hi I have final bought a Shopsmith!! I have wanted one for over 20 years. Now I have one!!!! Serial number 313513
So what do I do to get it up to check it out to see how it will run?
Motor runs but binds when the drive belt is attached.
I also need table saw blades and live center for lathe. It came with a 4" joiner.
I think this is a greenie. So any advice from Master Shopsmith owners would be greatly appreciated.
I also have the manual.
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Start with the top post in this(Maintenance and Repair) forum.
https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=7092
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Great Stuff!

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I can't wait to get home tonight and start cleaning, waxing and oiling. I did not realize just how amazing these machines are. I spent a few minutes looking at how things are designed and put together, incredible. It seems even mine is old it should give me years of service. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
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I would suggest that you make room in your shop. These machines seem to proliferate rapidly. I am sure that you will get great service from it. There are people who will put it down but if you use it for what it was designed to be, you will be forever pleased.

The design is very solid and if well cared for it will last forever.

Welcome to the forum. We are here to help whenever that is needed.

Take your time and play safe.
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No lead or ankypunky good sign or bad?

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I have watch the SS videos on lubricating Mark V. There was mention on ankypunk in some of the threaded holes that secure the quill and in other spots. My Greenie has the ankypunk in the holes. Is that a good sign or bad sign as far as the condition of the machine?
Also the quill does not retract on its own. Until I get a new spring can I still operate it (once I clean and lubricate everything)?
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Thanks Dusty! I will take you up on the offer. I am on my way now to my garage and have a closer at my greenie. After I get back I will probably have other questions. I am taking a notebook with me to make a parts list and question list.
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curley wrote:I have watch the SS videos on lubricating Mark V. There was mention on ankypunk in some of the threaded holes that secure the quill and in other spots. My Greenie has the ankypunk in the holes. Is that a good sign or bad sign as far as the condition of the machine?
Also the quill does not retract on its own. Until I get a new spring can I still operate it (once I clean and lubricate everything)?


It means no one has felt the need to remove it. Probably a good sign.

Do not conclude that the return spring is defective. There are other things that can cause that.

Review the Sawdust session that deals with quill maintenance, then draw conclusions after doing the work. Take special note of the spring tension setting step.
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Ran My Greenis for the First Time!!

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After cleaning, lubricating, learning how to re-attach a quill spring, freeing motor sheaves, replacing drive belt, ....... I was able to turn on my greenie for the first time. It was a great sound to hear the motor start, then speed up as I turn the speed control. The speed control is stiff and not smooth. The previous owner has stripped out a screw that holds the speed control. So while I was dialing through the speeds, I heard a metal pop and metal clanging noise one of the three screws that hold the speed mechanism had a brass nut on it. It had come off and the clip that holds the top floating sheave to the speed control had come off or I forgot to put it back on.

So now I need to either tap or place a lock washer and bolt on it.

The SS came without a saw blade, chuck, or sanding plate or lathe tailpiece. So now I need those things.
But it is working!!
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curley wrote:After cleaning, lubricating, learning how to re-attach a quill spring, freeing motor sheaves, replacing drive belt, ....... I was able to turn on my greenie for the first time. It was a great sound to hear the motor start, then speed up as I turn the speed control. The speed control is stiff and not smooth. The previous owner has stripped out a screw that holds the speed control. So while I was dialing through the speeds, I heard a metal pop and metal clanging noise one of the three screws that hold the speed mechanism had a brass nut on it. It had come off and the clip that holds the top floating sheave to the speed control had come off or I forgot to put it back on.

So now I need to either tap or place a lock washer and bolt on it.

The SS came without a saw blade, chuck, or sanding plate or lathe tailpiece. So now I need those things.
But it is working!!
Make sure that you no longer have that heavy handed gorilla in the shop. Stripping out those threads I would think almost impossible - unless he tried to use a screw with the wrong threads. Even then, stripping the threads would have required some unwarranted force.

If you are going to use a bolt and nut, I would recommend a nylon self locking nut rather than a lock washer and nut.
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curley wrote:Hi I have final bought a Shopsmith!! I have wanted one for over 20 years. Now I have one!!!! Serial number 313513
So what do I do to get it up to check it out to see how it will run?
Motor runs but binds when the drive belt is attached.
I also need table saw blades and live center for lathe. It came with a 4" joiner.
I think this is a greenie. So any advice from Master Shopsmith owners would be greatly appreciated.
I also have the manual.
Can you add your location and to accept Emails to your Profile. There may be a Shopsmith owner just down the road from you who can visit and assist you.
Bill Mayo bill.mayo@verizon.net
Shopsmith owner since 73. Sell, repair and rebuild Shopsmith, Total Shop & Wood Master headstocks, SPTs, attachments, accessories and parts. US Navy 1955-1975 (FTCS/E-8)
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