Hi,
My son and I had picked up his new to him 1978 shopsmith last week and while most of my last week was dealing with staying alive this coming week will be more to the not lifting more then 5 pounds and doing some research on parts for the 78.
The name plate (now called logo cover) fell off as the duct tape had turned to dust. A common problem once the little spring thing comes off. No idea where the spring is and while it might turn up I'm not counting on that as repair route. Why? Because my hunch says it gone due to finding a brand new logo cover in the boxes.
Before we get to excited, the logo cover is the new larger version for the newer headstock. A search did not find anyone documenting the conversion but the search engine is limited by what naming that was used in a post and it could be I missed it.......... So does anyone recalling seeing such a posting?
BTW shopsmith still lists the old version 504241 with a cost of $31.84, for that price we might be as well off making our own adjustments for what we have in hand or go for the full conversion.
Any thought are welcome.
Ed
1978 model in for repairs/rebuild/updates
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PM or e-mail me your snail mail address and I will send you one. Needs cleaning up, but stout and usable.
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I have a question about these.
Does anyone know a way to make them less loosey goosey?
Mine vibrates making a awful racket. I have considered taking it off and leaving it off.
I think the new ones are held in with a screw but I think that would take considerable modification to do it. Perhaps not.
Any ideas????
Does anyone know a way to make them less loosey goosey?
Mine vibrates making a awful racket. I have considered taking it off and leaving it off.
I think the new ones are held in with a screw but I think that would take considerable modification to do it. Perhaps not.
Any ideas????
Ed in Tampa
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On the 4 machines I have they are all tight. Might be luck of the draw or could yours have had something happen it it?Ed in Tampa wrote:I have a question about these.
Does anyone know a way to make them less loosey goosey?
Mine vibrates making a awful racket. I have considered taking it off and leaving it off.
I think the new ones are held in with a screw but I think that would take considerable modification to do it. Perhaps not.
Any ideas????
The modification that you are speaking of is the same one I had ask about and while I now have a solution to my issue it would still be nice to hear what others have done by way of solving their issues.
I was thinking that the hole size/mounting changed was with the "C" housing but I not sure. So or are any "B" headstocks fitted that way?
Ed
If it were me, I would try a bead of silicon around the edge. Once it dries, you can trim the excess. You would still be able to remove it easy enough. Actually, since you aren't trying to seal it, a few dobs of silicon around the circumference would probably be enough to stop the chattering.Ed in Tampa wrote:I have a question about these.
Does anyone know a way to make them less loosey goosey?
Mine vibrates making a awful racket. I have considered taking it off and leaving it off.
I think the new ones are held in with a screw but I think that would take considerable modification to do it. Perhaps not.
Any ideas????
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Re: 1978 model in for repairs/rebuild/updates
Today was our first day working on the headstock. We have had a hard time finding time when he was home and I was able to get him started. When he called today he had several things on his mind. One of which was to work on the headstock. We managed to get about an hour and half in on the headstock so that was a good start.
When he purchased it I had a good amount of time to check it out so I was sure it was in pretty good shape but without taking it apart you can only go so far.
The PO had taken good care of it and from what ascertain it was used as a lathe most of the time. It had collected some dust but not more then one might have thought. It certainly must have been clean out a few times and lubed regularly.
The rest of the machine is in a storage unit so we were working with the headstock on a table. Started by pulling the cover off. We spent a good deal of time on understanding the speed control, with the cover off most of the parts can be seen and pointed to. Now that he knows how that part works it is easy to understand why it needs lubrication and cleaning.
I turned the output shaft as he cranked it from slow to fast and could watch what was happening so that is also now clear to him. Next to come off was the belt, which also looks good but with a lot of set to it. Pulled the switch and dropped the motor pan to have a better look at the motor. Yes it has some dust in it but far from packed in it. Not even much dust below it. A.O. Smith motor which is what I had hoped for.
Showed him the oil holes and told him to visit the Ace Hardware for oil. I also suggested that the headstock be turned to allow the oil to get where it needs to go. Things are moving well so I don't think we will need to pull much apart unless it is for educational purposes.
Pork chop looks really good. Needs to be cleaned up and maybe taken out for a better look but from what I can see it is tracking fine with little wear.
The quill has never been out so I gave him the task of getting the gunk out of set screw for our next adventure on learning how to not let the handle spin out of control and disconnecting the spring.... and which way to turn the handle so you don't go backwards and disconnect the spring.
I think this is a pretty good way to learn about the inside of the machine and will help him to have a really feel for just what a shopsmith is all about.
He has a shopping list and a to do list. Next time we can remove the speed control and take a look at the back of the motor. Oh yea the quill will come out too.
We also worked on my next generation phone set up, I have one of his old one and now that he's updated again I get the newer old one now.
Looking forward to seeing him making sawdust in the spring.
Ed
When he purchased it I had a good amount of time to check it out so I was sure it was in pretty good shape but without taking it apart you can only go so far.
The PO had taken good care of it and from what ascertain it was used as a lathe most of the time. It had collected some dust but not more then one might have thought. It certainly must have been clean out a few times and lubed regularly.
The rest of the machine is in a storage unit so we were working with the headstock on a table. Started by pulling the cover off. We spent a good deal of time on understanding the speed control, with the cover off most of the parts can be seen and pointed to. Now that he knows how that part works it is easy to understand why it needs lubrication and cleaning.
I turned the output shaft as he cranked it from slow to fast and could watch what was happening so that is also now clear to him. Next to come off was the belt, which also looks good but with a lot of set to it. Pulled the switch and dropped the motor pan to have a better look at the motor. Yes it has some dust in it but far from packed in it. Not even much dust below it. A.O. Smith motor which is what I had hoped for.
Showed him the oil holes and told him to visit the Ace Hardware for oil. I also suggested that the headstock be turned to allow the oil to get where it needs to go. Things are moving well so I don't think we will need to pull much apart unless it is for educational purposes.
Pork chop looks really good. Needs to be cleaned up and maybe taken out for a better look but from what I can see it is tracking fine with little wear.
The quill has never been out so I gave him the task of getting the gunk out of set screw for our next adventure on learning how to not let the handle spin out of control and disconnecting the spring.... and which way to turn the handle so you don't go backwards and disconnect the spring.
I think this is a pretty good way to learn about the inside of the machine and will help him to have a really feel for just what a shopsmith is all about.
He has a shopping list and a to do list. Next time we can remove the speed control and take a look at the back of the motor. Oh yea the quill will come out too.
We also worked on my next generation phone set up, I have one of his old one and now that he's updated again I get the newer old one now.
Looking forward to seeing him making sawdust in the spring.
Ed
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Re: 1978 model in for repairs/rebuild/updates
I think the larger access hole was born with the "C" casting.
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