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Greenie Restoration

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:20 pm
by Tylerh
I posted a few days ago on the "community" section of the forum as a introduction and minor questions. Here is the link if you're interested http://shopsmith.com/ss_forum/community ... 18410.html. Now that I have completely torn apart the headstock and am starting the clean up I have found some trouble parts and unknown parts. As a reminder I started woodworking about 5 years ago and went the hand tool route from the beginning. No working with machines at all. So excuse my possible dumb questions as I will probably have a few. First things first is a unknown part I can't found on the exploded view in the manual (will post pics) Second is a few parts that are worn or somewhat broken. One I don't have a pic for is one of the headstock lock wedges. the bottom rounded portion that has a groove that sits in the triangle piece that's part of the casting inside has broken off. Meaning that it can now spin freely when fully loosened. Does that need replacing? I will take a pic in a little while. It's more of a "does this have to be replaced" question as money is quite tight. I'll post with the pics the actual questions.

Re: Greenie Restoration

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:44 pm
by everettdavis
That part rubs on the back of the speed changer dial and fits in the 12 o'clock detent on the top of the opening for it in the headstock.

You guessed well. Later model case has a spring that goes across an opening in the same general area.

Based on this and the two small holes visible in the photo opposed to an inspection port opening on the back side under the removable logo plate, it is clear you are working with an early Greenie, and one of the heavier sand cast "A" style headstocks.

This anti rattle / locking clip was used exclusively with "A" series headstocks.

See post from JPG http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... 40#p202240

Everett

Re: Greenie Restoration

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:13 pm
by Tylerh
That's where I thought it went but couldn't figure out how. Probably because everything is in little pieces. Thanks!

Re: Greenie Restoration

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:19 pm
by rcplaneguy
Be careful with that light (shocking)!

Re: Greenie Restoration

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:09 pm
by Tylerh
Haha I took the cover off last night to find a set screw that had fallen on the floor and took the pic right before I cleaned some stuff up and put it back on. So no worries no electrocution here!

Re: Greenie Restoration

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:09 pm
by JPG
Since you have already broke it down, I suggest a couple of 'alterations. The control sheave needs an oil hole in the hub.

Ditto the floating sheave on the motor shaft.

I would replace the porkchop and reassemble with Bill Mayo's 'fix'.

I would not add the access hole.
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Re: Greenie Restoration

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:21 pm
by ERLover
Well JPG, he might know who Bill M is, give a bit of info or a sight for him ;) Jesse cant find him to post, time to put mom to bed.

Re: Greenie Restoration

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:45 pm
by JPG

Re: Greenie Restoration

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:12 am
by Tylerh
JPG, thanks for the link and advice. How would I go about adding the oil holes? Do you just drill into the hub? And although that PDF on "the fix" looks like a great idea, I have a good feeling that I will end up messing up and/or breaking something trying to do that. This is the first "machine" I've ever worked on so any alterations are quite nerve racking.

Re: Greenie Restoration

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:32 am
by JPG
Basically yes. A small(1/8") hole near where the hub attaches to the pulley sheave into the keyway groove. Removal of any burr inside the hub bore will be needed. The burr can be minimized by creeping up to the final hole size.

Use of a drill press is advisable.