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Kent50
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Accessory Box Question

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I have a 1953 greenie that I restored and have gotten into collecting Shopsmith accessories from that time in their original boxes to go with it. I have seen the yellow Yuba boxes, mustard and black Magna boxes, mustard and black Shopsmith boxes, Black Shopsmith boxes and various other boxes. I can kind of figure out a basic timeline as to when newer versus older boxes came out but does anyone know the years associated with particular boxes? I think it would be cool to have a complete set of accessories, in their boxes, to go with my Shopsmith.

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The Mark 5 was introduced in March of 1954. With that introduction accessories that had been made for the Shopsmith Model 10E and 10ER changed somewhat. Arbors, Chucks and Spindles had used 1/4" and 3/8" Set screws which were changed to 5/16" Set Screw to have a single 5/32" Allen Wrench to simplify changeovers. The first Drill Chuck, the Jacobs 3326, for the Mark 5 in 1954 had a special 3/8" set screw that uses a 5/32" Allen Wrench. It soon changed to a 5/16" Set Screw. This is one exception I know of to the set screw change I listed above. There are few other set screws used over the years for Mark series tools that use different sizes when a 5/16" Set Screw is not practical.

As for the Boxes these items came in, they didn't change all of the part numbers or the items themselves except for the set screw. As you search you would want those items that use a 5/32" Allen Wrench beginning with Boxes labeled from Magna Engineering Corporation. Since you have an early Mark 5 only boxes labeled Magna Engineering Corporation would be correct. The next labeling of boxes beginning in 1955 had Magna Power Tool Corporation on them. There will be boxes with Magna Engineering Corporation dating back to 1947 and the introduction of the original 5 in 1 tool the Model 10E. Keep in mind the set screw size for the correct era.

The 5/8 " and 1/2" "universal" Arbors changed part numbers from 12 031 to 22 031 for the 5/8" arbor and 12 030 to 22 030 for the 1/2" Arbor. An additional Arbor for the 9" Saw Blade with a 1-1/4" Arbor Hole was introduced as 22 032. Others kept the part numbers starting with 12.

Due to the time that has elapsed it is possible to find parts in earlier or later boxes than the one it may have come in originally. It can be difficult to find intact boxes for these early accessories. We are talking about things that are over 70 years old.

So far, I have mainly concentrated on Arbors, Chucks and Spindles but there are many more accessories to be found. One that most people don't realize that was made for the Mark 5 was also made to work on the Model 10's is the Shaper Fence which came out by August 1953 before the Mark 5. Its original instructions show it on a Model 10ER.

Old catalogs can be useful in learning what was available back then.
Russ

Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
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Thank you so much! That is a wealth of information that I probably could not have found anywhere else. I really appreciate it.

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More about accessories and their boxes.

I am not sure when the Miter Guage Safety Grip came out or began being included with the Miter Guage. It was part number 22 354 and it sounds like it was new in the February 1955 catalog from the description. It came in a brown corrugated cardboard box. Early ones had Patent Pending on them.

The Mark 5 didn't come with a Saw Blade Guard set. It was an accessory item you could purchase separately as part number 22 370. It only has a capacity for up to 9" diameter Saw Blades which was their largest size at the time. Below is a picture of one but I have never seen a box for it. I would guess a corrugated cardboard box.

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Another accessory which was a carryover from the Model 10's was the Magna 2-1/2" Jointer Cutterhead part number 12 230. It was to be used with the Shaper Fence. This was another accessory that the set screw size changed with the introduction of the Mark 5. It would come as shown below but for the Mark 5 era it would have the 5/16" set screws to attach it to the Quill's Spindle. The earlier Model 10 version had 1/4" set screws

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An interesting accessory was the Key Switch and Outlet Box part number 22 015. It is shown below with the box it came in. I am not sure when it first came out but is in the February 1955 catalog. This was a safety item allowing the Mark 5 power to be locked out when not in use. It mounted on the bottom of the Lock Bar through the extra holes that holds the Bench Tubes to the Bench Ends. For use it required cutting off the power cord plug from the headstock and wiring it to the switch.

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Lathe Chisels part number 12 301 were an accessory item that did not come with the purchase of a Mark 5. For 1954 they would be the second version of the Lathe Chisels with a red logo stamped into the handle in a box from Magna Engineering Corporation. This version predates the introduction of the Mark 5 but carried over to it.

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In your first post here you said,
I have a 1953 greenie that I restored
I am curious as to the serial number of your Mark 5 Greenie to see when it was made and if that was prior to the introduction in March of 1954.
Russ

Mark V completely upgraded to Mark 7
Mark V 520
All SPT's, 2 Power Stations & Crafter's Station
Model 10ER S/N R64000 first one I restored on bench w/ metal ends & retractable casters.
Has Speed Changer, 4E Jointer, Jig Saw with lamp, a complete set of original accessories & much more.
Model 10E's S/N's 1076 & 1077 oldest ones I have restored. Mark 2 S/N 85959 restored.
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