Aligning the Mark 5/V on an Uneven Floor

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robinson46176 wrote:This was posted on Facebook as some blond's test answer... :)
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Technically, that is correct. The instructions say to find as in locate x the instructions do not say solve for x using Pythagorean theorem. This could be argued.
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Terry, I have given credit for less than that! :D
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JPG40504 wrote:...FWIW 'Level' is not an issue, co-planer is. ...
This appears to be a good spot to break in and inject my 2cents, mainly because that particular sentiment seems to me to be so right.
And I agree with most everything so far.
I have found that this really is a potential problem, and a significant one for me. My unit may well be worse than any other, btw, for good reason.
As for heavy weights and such, I've found the worst such example is me. Even if I have the M5 in as solid a state on the floor as can be, if I lean on the main table, say, during an operation, I can cause all kinds of temporary misalignments.
Since I've "discovered" this anomaly, with the help of the Forum expertise, I spend the time to "set" the M5, check 'planar', and lock all connectors I can get in there. Takes only a miniute, maybe two, and I'm good for a day.
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dusty wrote:...
The dust collector hose is about 8' long and connects where you see it with the other end connector to the DC3300. On the inside of what you see in the pictures, where you cannot see, is another hose that is routed up to the head stock. This hose is attached with cable ties to the rear bench tube to keep it off the floor.
...The hose that is connected to the left leg of the Mark V is relocated to the jointer whenever I am using that. ..s:
Yet *another* great idea.
I'm thinkin, why don't I save time and trouble readin the forum, by simply searching for all of Dusty's entries, print 'em all out, and put them in a new loose leaf binder, set on the shelf next to the SS manual.

Yeah, soon as I finish ordering a few new vacuum hose fittings from the SS catalog...
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JPG40504 wrote:I.... Especially since the 'theory' was proved by Euclid, not Pythagoras, ...
So theoretically Pythagoras is unproven.
Is that a Pythy comment?
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keakap wrote:So theoretically Pythagoras is unproven.
Is that a Pythy comment?
It would seem pythagoras was given credit where not due!;)
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Some confusion may also exist about a similar type word "pith" as in pith helmet. I have one I wear a lot made of some kind of coarse grass. I'm not sure why they call it a pith-helmet. If you pithed in it it would all leak out. ;)


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dlbristol wrote:Yep, and had some Imaginary friends as well. (i) perhaps we have hijacked this thread enough. :)
On this forum there is hardly ever a thread that does not get hijacked. I don't know if that is good or bad but it sure does making searching for a specific post more difficult.

As closure for this thread (from my point of view) I would like to report that installing the stabilizers had absolutely no impact on alignment even though the Mark V had been rolled all over the shop looking for where I wanted to settle. I performed a complete alignment check and made NO adjustments.

NOTE: I use a Wixey for angular measurements and strive for +-.2&#176]
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dusty wrote:I would venture a guess that most of us are not blessed with flat, level floors in our shops. A couple of us but not most of us.

Given that fact, I am wondering if anyone has trouble maintaining table alignments that can be directly attributed to the resulting instability brought about by one leg hanging free. My Mark V now teeters back and forth a bit on two diagonally opposing legs.

I just rearranged the shop and I now have that issue. There have been no alignment issues yet but they seem inevitable if I don't create some firm footing. I guess before I was just lucky and the four legs all rested firmly on the floor.
My SS lives in a 3 car garage with 3 drains. Needless the say, not a level flat floor to be found anywhere in my "Shop". I never had a problem with table alignments but more with the instability of the SS. My answer to this problem was the addition of leveling feet to the legs. As shown in the attached photo. It is a 1 1/2 inch by 3 inch hardwood block with threaded inserts and a 7 inch bolt with a rubber foot threaded through it. When I want to work, I position my SS where I need it screw down the foot or feet to provide a level stable saw.
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macgyver wrote:My SS lives in a 3 car garage with 3 drains. Needless the say, not a level flat floor to be found anywhere in my "Shop". I never had a problem with table alignments but more with the instability of the SS. My answer to this problem was the addition of leveling feet to the legs. As shown in the attached photo. It is a 1 1/2 inch by 3 inch hardwood block with threaded inserts and a 7 inch bolt with a rubber foot threaded through it. When I want to work, I position my SS where I need it screw down the foot or feet to provide a level stable saw.
That is neat!
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